Bumping up caliber

Well I suppose I could load up an RPG and put it on the seat next to me, but not having access to one I'll remain content with my 642 and hollow points....
 
Don't need to bump it up, I already typically carry a 357 Mag/Sig, 40, 44. I do have an LCP that is always in my pocket. I don't feel undergunned with it in most situations. Was never a big 9mm fan. Probably due more to 9mm fan boys than anything. As some of the responses here reinforce. It's always the 9mm boys who are preaching that anything bigger is unnecessary yet **** down the 380 and sometimes the 38 as utterly worthless. Size still matters. While accuracy is the main factor, the larger calibers give you more leeway if your shot isn't perfect. And anyone trying to claim otherwise, until you'd rather be shot in the rear-end with a 9mm than a 44 Magnum your argument is invalid...
 
Shield 45 and one spare mag. If that's not enough, it ain't my day.
 
At 70 I don't plan on putting myself on the front line of anything. But I still carry 642 with 38+p I will make every effort to distance myself from confrontation, Don't get me wrong, I will defend myself and others if necessary

I also hit the range about 1or 2 times a month, depending on ammo availability

Rob
 
I also hit the range about 1or 2 times a month, depending on ammo availability

Rob

I have a S&W M360PD, but would prefer to carry it with .38 SPC +P. I seem to have no trouble finding .40 S&W, 9MM, and .357 Mag on-line, but .38 special is getting really rare, even at insane prices.
 
When I went to his class in Phoenix a year ago in November, Grant Cunningham suggested that a good carry gun for me would be a 3" Model 610. My 610 is a 4", so I'm thinking of carrying that.

But the recent mass shootings have nothing to do with it.
 
Mindset and skill with a reliable gun that you shoot well and will carry on you is more important than caliber or capacity. I live in a high-crime city and while I've carried either a double-stack 9mm or a single-stack 1911 .45, I've also carried a 5-shot snub. Since I've been carrying concealed I've carried a snub more than anything else. I switched to a 9mm not because of capacity or caliber, but because I found it easier to shoot than my snub and can carry it concealed fairly easily. I recently switched to a .45 1911 not because it shoots bigger bullets but because I like it's handling characteristics, and found I can carry it concealed pretty easily, too. And sometimes I'll still carry my snub by itself, though most often it's carried as a BUG.

A bit of a cliche, but when you need it, a small gun on your person is going to be better than a big gun you left at home.

Just my opinion.
 
When I get my CCW back you would not believe the ammo I carry so why bother posting it?

Back when I carried just my Springfield Armory XD .45 Service Model I carried a TUFF Products Original 5 In-Line Mag Pouch after I had a concealed carry permit in Arkansas many years ago now.

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Pretty hard to beat a 9x19 with hollow points. Going to a more powerful gun/caliber will not make you safer.


ehhhh......pretty easy to beat with:

40 S&W, 45 Auto, 357 Mag, 357 Sig, 10mm Auto, 38 Super, 44 Special, etc.

:)

How does one define "beat" in this context? On another thread the other day someone posted a story about a police officer who shot a perp 14 times with his .45 ACP before the perp went down and he was still breathing in the emergency room. A lawyer buddy of mine tells the story of his former client, a drug dealer (yes, yes, they hire lawyers in case you didn't know) who shot another drug dealer 6 times and the guy got up and came after him.

So there is no "mo bigguh mo bettuh" round. You shoot what you practice with, presuming you're a real gun person and not a newbie with a new gun and maybe it's carried and maybe it's not. If you don't think you can protect yourself and others with a 9mm then by all means carry a larger caliber but don't denigrate the 9mm, a round that likely accounts for as many or more deaths worldwide than any pistol caliber. Every military in the world has been using it for 100 years EXCEPT ours and then they switched, too.

You do a Moazambique drill on a bad guy in any caliber his day is done. Shot placement is the key, not caliber.

Anecdotal stories abound. .22s have killed so many people the number is staggering. Do you think the dozens and dozens of people being killed across America every day, whether innocents or actual criminals themselves, shot by gangs or violent offenders newly released from jails, were all killed by .45 ACP rounds or .357 Magnums or 10mms? This is a never ending debate, I don't have a picture of a dead horse or I'd insert one here, but claiming to know the BEST caliber is just silly.
 
How does one define "beat" in this context? On another thread the other day someone posted a story about a police officer who shot a perp 14 times with his .45 ACP before the perp went down and he was still breathing in the emergency room. A lawyer buddy of mine tells the story of his former client, a drug dealer (yes, yes, they hire lawyers in case you didn't know) who shot another drug dealer 6 times and the guy got up and came after him.

So there is no "mo bigguh mo bettuh" round. You shoot what you practice with, presuming you're a real gun person and not a newbie with a new gun and maybe it's carried and maybe it's not. If you don't think you can protect yourself and others with a 9mm then by all means carry a larger caliber but don't denigrate the 9mm, a round that likely accounts for as many or more deaths worldwide than any pistol caliber. Every military in the world has been using it for 100 years EXCEPT ours and then they switched, too.

You do a Moazambique drill on a bad guy in any caliber his day is done. Shot placement is the key, not caliber.

Anecdotal stories abound. .22s have killed so many people the number is staggering. Do you think the dozens and dozens of people being killed across America every day, whether innocents or actual criminals themselves, shot by gangs or violent offenders newly released from jails, were all killed by .45 ACP rounds or .357 Magnums or 10mms? This is a never ending debate, I don't have a picture of a dead horse or I'd insert one here, but claiming to know the BEST caliber is just silly.

"Beat" means more powerful. I just simply pointed out the truth that the 9mm is less powerful than all the rounds I listed.

Of course you can defend yourself with a 9mm. But if I could choose to place one shot center mass with something on an attacking perp, I'd choose ALL of those rounds over a 9mm.
 
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