Canted or over-clocked barrels.

Bought 69, 617 and 629 new this year, no barrel cant issues. But the 617 had excessive endshake. And the 629's trigger is pretty rough at the beginning of the DA pull. The 69 & 629 lock up super tight.
 
All you have to do is make vise jaws that hold the barrel vertical, then get the grip frame 90 degrees to the table surface with a square. It takes about 30 seconds to get it perfect every time that way. No guessing or eyeballing the sights, it is mechanically exactly true. I've done it dozens of times.

Would you need a frame wench for this?
 
Curious how hard it is to turn the frame in a vise like that.

The amount of force is not that great. My frame wrench has about a 16" handle. Once I get close I just give the end educate smacks with my hand. I bet it is around 80-100 ftlb at most. A industrial fastener with 1/2 fine tread .500x20 threads calls for 80ftlb. A K frame is .540x36. It doesn't take that much force to loosen or tighten one. The amount of torque chance in 5 degrees is pretty small.

To big of hurry or not caring enough.
 
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Plus or minus 5 degrees is considered to be 'within spec'. If it's out 5 degrees they won't touch it. The last I saw this operation they put the gun in a vise and used a long wrench to tighten the barrel and 'eyeballed' the result. No such thing as an index mark.

The second and more serious problem was that they were drilling and tapping the hole for the barrel in the frame of the gun off axis. No amount of 'reclocking' would fix that. I believe that after a lot of complaints they fixed that.

I get what you're saying, but it just doesn't make sense to me that they would let something like that go out the door unnoticed. I don't think I'm all that naive, but if even the inspectors are falling down on the job, what does that say about the folks above them? No pride in their work, or what? Amazing!
 
I bought a 617 6” from the gun library, shipped from another gun library, a few years ago that had a canted barrel that was obvious. I took it to the range s soon as I could. I could not get it to shoot to the sights that ran out of windage. They took it back under the two week return policy they had.


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The light strike problem is mostly due to firing pins that are too short. A firing pin of .495 to .505 will often fix it.

Extended firing pin from Apex was the way to go for me.

No more light strikes.

S&W 21-4.
 

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Awesome! If you're as antsy as me, I find shopping for accessories can be distracting. I'm not buying any until I have the gun in my hand. Been burned before. But I'm shopping like a Rodeo Drive Kardashian Field Trip.
No accessories as yet but I did buy 1000 rds of 22lr for it!
Just to make sure it works OK! 😁
 
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Don't worry about the barrel. It only matters if a bullet is going to be traveling thru it. The light strike problem coming out of Smith lately is terrible, but it renders the barrel problem meaningless.
They are turning out junk these days.
Just my opinion

you are correct.but its not just Smith.Having retired from manufacturing,I have seen the causes.Companies get behind on work due to heavy incoming orders. Experienced employees retiring,companies hiring new/ part time help. Often times after a company puts time and effort into training new guys they quit and go elsewhere. The result is a binch of employees with not enough experience to make a quality product. For every ten employees hired,one will stay past a couple years
 
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Several years ago I bought a new .357 bolt action rifle. While drifting the sights the barrel started to unscrew. It was only hand tight.
I returned the rifle to the manufacturer. When I got it back the barrel was screwed in tight but overclocked enough that the sights were beyond adjustment.
I sent the rifle back again and it was fixed correctly. CS was good, but it makes you wonder about the folks actually assembling and inspecting.
 
I get what you're saying, but it just doesn't make sense to me that they would let something like that go out the door unnoticed. I don't think I'm all that naive, but if even the inspectors are falling down on the job, what does that say about the folks above them? No pride in their work, or what? Amazing!

Herein lies the problem. Nothing should go out the door especially visibly wrong. Half the stuff everybody complains about is visual inspection. Frame cracks, barrel cants, forcing cones. Yeah I suppose a burr may be in the internals and missed, but the visual stuff should never be missed
 
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