CCW in NY State (questions)

[robbt]

hi Drew , contact New York State rifle & pistol association and contact your local representive , he most likey can answews any questions , if you cannot pm me and see what I can find out for you , a good freind is my local rep,
robbt

 

[RIDE-RED 350r]

I also reside in Oneida County and just acquired my pistol license this summer. Here in Oneida County, we have to take the NRA Pistol saftery course before we can even pick up our application forms for the permit. My permit has hiking, camping, hunting and target restrictions on it. The safety course instructor is a comeptitive shooter and very involved in the NRA, and i think in some sort of leadership postition in the NRA. He is very well informed on NY and particularly Oneida county as far as pistol permits and what is allowed. He informed us that at this time, Oneida county will NOT issue unrestricted permits unless you can prove just cause for it. For example: you are a person who transports large sums of cash frequently, or are a business person who is in possession of large sums of cash. He told us other than that, the judge here will only issue restricted permits. I would mention his name, but I dont have his permission to do so. All i will say is that he teaches the safety course at Gander mountain in New Hartford, I would think you may be able to track him down through that route.

I have heard of being able to petition the judge to lift restrictions after you have had your permit for a while. I may try this in a year or so and see what happens. Cant hurt to try can it???

 

[ladder13]

Dooman, get involved in local elections. We(gun owners, and my club in particular) did so in Putnam County, we were instrumental in electing a County judge who promised to "follow the letter of the law". He delivered on his promise, and in fact, the other issueing judge declined to handle pistol licenses anymore and handed all duties off to the gun-friendly judge.
Having said that, we still need to be vigilant. This judge may "climb the ladder" in the future and go for Supreme Court judgeship, then we'll need to make sure we maintain what we fought for.
It all starts locally.

 

[RIDE-RED 350r]

You are absolutely right Ladder13, couldnt agree more. I dont do what you might call "official" volunteer work with elections, but i do talk to alot of friends and family about issues and candidates. In the past i have pursuaded a few people to get out and vote when they hadnt done so in the past. There are ALOT of descent reasonable people out there who dont like the way things are going that dont vote because they feel that their vote means nothing. Its really sad. But i digress......

One good aspect about our county judge who issues permits, if you have no problems with the law in the past, you are all but 100% garanteed to get approved for the permit. At least he has that going for him. And they move it through fairly quickly. I got my approval letter 4 months after turning everything in. Not bad considering our pistol office has by their own admission been VERY busy with new permits lately, (i wonder why!). I have family in other counties where the judge is against citizen ownership of firearms and issues ZERO permits. Now that is a shame and wrong on so many levels!

 

[Moonwalker14]

Here in Catt. County all permits that I know of do not have any restrictions on them. You can carry concealed only unless hunting.

 

[10mmauto]

hi drew , in this state ( at least in my county ) if someone rabbis the permit to the judge you can get a conceiled ( un -restricted ) carry permit , but it is not legal in New York city , but a New York City carry is good thru out the state , another set of wacky laws ,
not trying to ruin your day , but also in my county you can be selected to join the sherrif posse ( really posse ) and after 10 yrs on the posse you can then can apply under the new HR law as a piece officer for a federal carry, I tried to teach one posse to shoot ( I finally gave up, no hope ) & he had a full carry and never made a arrest ???

What?

I've had my NY State permit since 1981. I've never heard of a NY State sheriff posse. I've also never heard of a civilian carrying under H.R. 218. But maybe I've been living under a rock?

 

[ladder13]

What?

I've had my NY State permit since 1981. I've never heard of a NY State sheriff posse. I've also never heard of a civilian carrying under H.R. 218. But maybe I've been living under a rock?

I've never heard the term posse being used either. In Westchester County they have the County DPS(police) and also an "auxiliary" unit, the Sheriff's Dept. My BIL is the Chief of the Sheriff Dept(non paid position).The Sheriffs are non- paid, and supplement the DPS, working parades, road closures, local town fairs, etc etc.
After 10 years, yes, you can "retire" from the Sheriff Dept and be issued an ID, which says "Retired Westchester County DPS". A member on this forum has such an ID, he showed it to me about 6 months ago.
No mention of career cop or volunteer cop, so I'm guessing you'd be covered under LEOSA, if you go thru the quals.

 

[snuffy51]

From mostly free America.

Why is it so hard up yonder? Tennessee CCW licenses are issued by the Highway Patrol, same as driver license, for 5 years. Cost is 127.50 and renewal is 62.50. You also have to take and pass an approved CCW class, less than a $100 and a little time. We have to pay, but I think it is a small price to pay for the freedom. Open carry handguns is also legal with the permit. Carry laws at set by the State, and local governments cannot legally override them. Most government buildings, schools and places having school activities are off limits. Restaurants serving alcohol aren't if you don't drink, but bars with main business serving alcohol are. Any private business can prohibit firearms, but must post state approved signs at entrances, all they can do is ask you to leave. I don't want to spend my money there anyway. Sounds like a hassle, but it isn't really that much. At the very least, if you are too hard case to do the above, if you can legally purchase a firearm, you can carry a loaded handgun or long gun in your vehicle. Just can't get out and walk around with it. Your vehicle is covered under our "Castle Doctrine" law. Tennessee also honors permits from all other states, and ours are honored in most states, except for the left coast and a few in the N'east. And the weather is great here also.

 

[Mainsail]

I wonder if you could enter "All lawful use/carry" as a reason?

Seriously, that's a messed up system. The only time I've ever had a firearms permit or license that required anything other than personal info like name and address, was when I was active duty; my concealed carry permit mentioned the gun(s) I had qualified with and allowed to carry on the plane. It didn't mention SNs just type, like M56 or M9.