Changing my edc gun to 22 LR (new info at the end of thread)

[BAM-BAM]

A .32 Beretta 81 at 12+1 or a Walther PPK/s at 8+1 would be my first choice.... but I wouldn't rule out a .22 like the M&P Compact.

 

[AJ]

Still like my 351C with just 7 rounds of .22 Magnum. If nothing else the flash and loud bang will scare them. Can put the seven rounds center mass on a B5 target at 7 yards in approximately 2.5 seconds, but I cheat and use both hands.

 

[Robspeire]

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[Nedroe]

Sometimes......

you just gotta' make it your own. A 17-8, 10 shot 22lr with a 3 inch barrel




I carry this from time to time.

Ned

 

[smoothshooter]

Have you tried .22 mags ? Little more firepower and not much more recoil. I believe there are several nice revolvers available in .22 mag.

Not much ballistic gain over a .22 LR.
At least twice as expensive and the high-pitched muzzle “crack” is particularly nasty. Worse than a hot loaded .38 in my opinion, but maybe I’m just a wuss.

Firepower and power are not the same things.

 

[wetdog1911]

Not much ballistic gain over a .22 LR.
At least twice as expensive and the high-pitched muzzle “crack” is particularly nasty. Worse than a hot loaded .38 in my opinion, but maybe I’m just a wuss.

Firepower and power are not the same things.

I agree! Have a High Standard derringer in .22mag that the muzzle flash and report (not to mention zero accuracy), makes me wish I had thought it through and gotten the LR version.

But, .22 MAG!........Man!

Accuracy is so bad that I never threw good money after bad for the LR version. Strictly a contact weapon!

Cost of ammo, not to mention the higher cost of the revolvers chambered in .22mag, for not much better ballistics in short, snubby bbls, just made it not worth my while.

Do love my 2 M34-1s and M43C though.
Rob

 

[rich5674]

I see my future

Same hand problem as you. If I have to down load first it will be 38 wadcutters. Then .22 mag revolver or 22lr with the most powerful solid points I could find. Accuracy is king, penetration is queen.

 

[wetdog1911]

Same hand problem as you. If I have to down load first it will be 38 wadcutters. Then .22 mag revolver or 22lr with the most powerful solid points I could find. Accuracy is king, penetration is queen.

Even with wadcutters, the lightweight 442 is not that pleasant to shoot. Not for proficiency anyway. All the other .38s are of steel construction.

The 2 M34-1 snubbies I have are amazingly accurate for such short bbls, even in DA. The M43C, less so because of the heavy DA only trigger. It's getting better with use, but still not close to the M34s trigger. But, there IS a considerable weight trade-off.

I'll trade the weight for better accuracy any day. Accuracy IS king!

Rob

 

[Flattop5]

Gentlemen, although an interesting thread the OP self-exiled himself from the Forum over 2 1/2 years ago since we were "restricting his First Amendment rights".

Heck, forums are always restricting my rights, e.g., my 47th Amendment right to upload stuff. But does that keep me away? Nope! I'll just keep right on coming back. Just try to keep me away!


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[smoothshooter]

Same hand problem as you. If I have to down load first it will be 38 wadcutters. Then .22 mag revolver or 22lr with the most powerful solid points I could find. Accuracy is king, penetration is queen.

We all like accuracy, but sheet of typing paper accuracy is good enough for defensive purposes at the distances involved.
Heck, rifling is not even needed.

 

[smoothshooter]

Even with wadcutters, the lightweight 442 is not that pleasant to shoot. Not for proficiency anyway. All the other .38s are of steel construction.

The 2 M34-1 snubbies I have are amazingly accurate for such short bbls, even in DA. The M43C, less so because of the heavy DA only trigger. It's getting better with use, but still not close to the M34s trigger. But, there IS a considerable weight trade-off.

I'll trade the weight for better accuracy any day. Accuracy IS king!


Rob

Disagree.
If the shooter/combo can keep their shots on a sheet of notebook paper, they are good to go. It’s all that’s needed.

 

[smoothshooter]

I have a 43C. The trigger was horrendus, but I wasn't about to start messing with springs and reliability. Not from the jump anyway.

After 2 sets of snap caps (wore one set completely out), and countless dry fires, the trigger has smoothed out quite a bit, plus strengthing the DA muscles. I'm 73 and have the corresponding lack of strength in both the hands and arm. The 43C makes a perfect pocket pistol.

I also have 2, M34-1s snubbys, but these are just a bit too heavy for pocket use and would need a belt holster. Chunky little things, but boy do they shoot!

AFA the reliability of .22lr, you get what you pay for. You don't blueprint a 327 engine and expect 87 octane to work well in it. Don't expect bulk ammo or, whatevers on sale at Wally World to be reliable. I've been using SK standard+ (rebranded as Wolf MT), for well over 10 years and cannot honestly recall any ammo related issues with it. No experience, but I've also heard good things about Eley. Apparently QC means something on the other side of the Atlantic.

Yeah, it costs more, so what? You aren't shooting tin cans, but, perhaps, trusting your life to it.

The simple fact is, for me, I simply can shoot .22s more accurately in J framed sized revolvers than even .38 target loads and for me, accuracy trumps 'knock down power' every time.

Rob

You should try one of the S & W AirLite .22 LR revolvers.
Weigh approx. 11 ounces, 8 shots, best double action triggers I have ever seen on a Smith.
I have 2. One has a 3” barrel, the other is 1 7/8”.
They are so light they feel like toys. I love them.
Only drawbacks are you cannot clean the chambers or frame with copper brushes. It will scratch the aluminum up.
Do not dry-fire. Not even once. If the firing pin protrusion is ANY too long, it will ding the edge of the chamber and require some dressing up with a needle file.

 

[fatcat3]

It's not being beaten to death that would be my primary worry. It would be being shot by the bad guy before he finally succumbs to his wounds.

If I am forced to use any firearm, no matter the cal. I'm going to be worried and return fire. any who I was responding to... "the use a .22 and you are going to be beaten by your attacker."

 

[smoothshooter]

Anyone a fan of the LCR .22?

Yes. I have had one for several years.
Ugliest gun I own. Trigger pull sucks.

Has fired around 600 rounds of various brands of LR ammo with no misfires.

 

[LCC]

You should try one of the S & W AirLite .22 LR revolvers.
Weigh approx. 11 ounces, 8 shots, best double action triggers I have ever seen on a Smith.
I have 2. One has a 3” barrel, the other is 1 7/8”.
They are so light they feel like toys. I love them.
Only drawbacks are you cannot clean the chambers or frame with copper brushes. It will scratch the aluminum up.
Do not dry-fire. Not even once. If the firing pin protrusion is ANY too long, it will ding the edge of the chamber and require some dressing up with a needle file.

was unaware of the M317 Kit Gun.. 8 shot 3" revolver at only 11.7 ounces? Now that I've seen one..want.

 

[BRL40]

Want a good laugh?

Go to YouTube and watch- I'm Sorry You Feel That Way: I Have To Have A Gun ll Bill Burr.

Good argument for having a .22!

Language isn't the best...

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJnEXfD07yc[/ame]

 

[Rudi]

What ever works best for you.

 

[Kid44]

I've killed an awful lot of stuff with a .22LR.. I don't think a BG getting hit with a hail storm of .22 is gonna want to play very long.

Not that he was playing to begin with.

 

[Darkenfast]

Paul Harell has a new video on YT about the Taurus TX22. He compares it with the Glock 44, the M&P .22, and the Beretta M9 in .22. It's an interesting take on both the pistols and the ammunition tested. The one thing he left out is the price of the guns. I think it's a good video.

 

[max503]

One of my favorite .22s of all time is my Bersa Thunder. It has a steel slide, no pot metal or whatever they call it, great ergonomics, DA/SA trigger, and perfectly reliable with CCI Blazers and Stingers. It hates Rem/Win/Fed junk ammo because it doesn't have the power to move that steel slide. I can fire 11 rounds out of it very quickly and accurately and getting head shots are a breeze at close range.

I picked one up in a trade. Thought it was junk because of numerous jams. Turns out, the thing had never been broken in.
Now it functions almost flawlessly. Know what it likes? Thunderbolts!