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Colt Model 1909 USN Double Action .45 Long Colt Revolver
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Puller
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I'm not a .45 Colt shooter so please ignore my ignorance, but seems as I've browsed through one of my reloading manuals I've read there is only .45 Colt and .45 Schofield (which is shorter). Is .45 Long Colt just a nickname?
AJ
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Yes Sir, it is a nickname. I think just to differentiate between the .45 Colt, .45 Schofield and .45 ACP. I usually say it is a ".45 Colt" and folks look at me puzzled and then I say "Long Colt" and they understand that.
Is there any difference between this revolver and a Colt New Service in 45 Colt?
Not really. The NS did go to a shouldered barrel later in production.
SnidelyWhiplash
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Cot's 1917 revolver was the first New Service with a shouldered barrel. It became standard on all New Service revolvers after that...outside of some that used earlier spare barrels that were used up.
DWalt
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There is a difference in the length of the extractor rod knob. The 1909 knob is longer.
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NICE one!
I had the pleasure of selling one from a dear friend's estate years ago. He was one of the first Navy Seals--
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I had the pleasure of selling one from a dear friend's estate years ago. He was one of the first Navy Seals--
https://smith-wessonforum.com/firea...what-kind-horse-answered.html?highlight=horse
DWalt
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If you have access to a copy of Hackley, Woodin, and Scranton’s book, History of Modern U.S. Military Small Arms Ammunition (Volume 1), it contains a very detailed discussion of the .45 Model of 1909 cartridge, its development, manufacture, and variations. It was never officiallly referred to as a “.45 Colt” or “.45 Long Colt.” Due to its larger diameter rim, it was not useable in the .45 SAA, except as a “three-shooter.” But the .45 Colt and .45 Schofield cartridges could be used in the M1909 revolver if necessary. And probably were on occasion.
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DWalt
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You could say that, as there was not a cartridge named the .45 Short Colt. But there were the shorter .45 Schofield and .45 S&W cartridges. You are correct if you restrict your cartridge terminology to .45 Colt and .45 Schofield (which the Army called the .45 Revolver Ball cartridge under several different model date designations) and skip using .45 Long Colt terminology altogether. There was a shorter .45 S&W cartridge (aka .45 Model of 1906) but that is a special situation.
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The Colt M1909 revolver is an oft overlooked piece of U.S. Martial Arms history and missing from many collections.
Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for sharing.
AJ
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The local gun shop sold a Model 1909 U.S. Army for $801.00 last night on Gunbroker.
