Colt Three Fifty Seven

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I've slowly been selling off a few guns, but it's been hard. I don't buy guns for investment or to flip, I've just bought what I've liked over the years. So far the ones I've sold have been non-shooters.

Today I decided to list this early 3-5-7, but after taking pictures and handling the gun, I just couldn't do it. I feel sorry for my poor son when he has to deal with all my stuff at some point. Some people (not me) call this a "pre-Python". They either came out in 1953 or 1954, I've seen people with a lot more knowledge than me use both dates. Whatever year it was, this one is a first year gun. It ran concurrent with the same size Trooper, which only came in .38 or .22, and had a hammer mounted firing pin. The Python came out in 1955 and put it in the shade. Later on it was merged into the Trooper line.

But, since I took the pictures, I have to show them to someone! Please, no offers, or "first in line if you change your mind", it's not for sale. I have shot this one with .38's, it's a sweetheart:
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In this one the top of the barrel shows some reflections from the background, it's not wear. You can see a little wear on the end of the barrel:
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I have old Gun Digests and American Rifleman magazines from the 50's in which the writer salutes Colt for taking the firing pin off the hammer, and making it frame mounted "where it belongs on magnums". Yet, people are still griping about S&W doing the same in this century. Some of those same bellyachers also rave about Pythons with their frame mounted firing pin. Go figure.
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Some people also like the "duo-tone finish" on these early guns, where some places are highly polished, and some are matte. Those same 50's publication state it was a cost-saving measure. Colt was going through some tough times.
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Whew, I feel better now! I've always been a S&W guy, I bought my first one in the very early 70's; for a long time you couldn't give me a double-action Colt. That changed over the years, obviously. They have a feel all their own.
 
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Funny, I've been looking for a 3-5-7 to add to my small Colt stable. I understood that they got the "pre-Python" moniker as they were hand fitted by the factory. Don't know if that is true or not.
 
Years ago a friend had one. Accurate and reliable and it had a great trigger pull. I was into Mausers (still am) so I didn't get one.
 
Hi Bob,
That's a beauty. I have one as well, but not quite in the same condition as your's. The top strap on your revolver caught my eye. I see that the front edge of your adjustable sights are rounded where it mates to the top strap. My Colt 357 is also a first year production, 4" duo tone model but the front of the adjustable sights are squared off where it meets the top strap. My serial# is 5671. If possible, could you post part or all of your serial# and do you by chance know when this change occurred? Here's a pic of mine, not quite as nice as your's though.

 
The ambivalence with which we "infected ones" experience when faced with "to sell or not to sell," is indeed painful.
You can now rest easy:)
BTW good decision.
 
Very nice!

I have a Trooper 357, and a 357 model is definitely on my "want" list. Even though I am an s&w guy, the Trooper remains one of my favorite guns. I can only imagine that a 357 would be that much better.
 
Very nice, so was this Colt's answer to S&W's Highway Patrolman model?
 
Beats me 824tsv. Do you have a picture of yours? My serial number is 289x.

I wish someone would dedicate five years of their life to researching and publishing information on the Colt post-WWII double action revolvers. Myself and the other 50 guys who want one would really appreciate it. :)

If I was still buying guns, I'd like to have a .38 Officers Model Special, just because they're so funky looking.
 
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A friend has a 6" 357 that I have shot on a few occasions. I own a 6" 1960s Trooper 357, and I can't tell any difference in the guns, or the trigger pull. I think some of that "hand fitting" is hype as much as anything else.
 
The full checkered target stocks are the ne plus ultra of the 3-5-7. A good pair of those can easily bring $400, and possibly more, all by themselves. Serven's book states the 3-5-7 was introduced by Colt in late 1953, followed by the Trooper in early 1954, and I'll take his word for that.

One could legitimately say that the 3-5-7 is a pre-Python, as it's built on the same I-frame. The myth is that the 3-5-7 is inferior to the Python in fit and finish, but I have seen many 3-5-7s having fit and finish that could absolutely not be improved upon. The fact is that the 3-5-7 (at least under that name) perished in 1961 simply because there was no point in having two very similar high-quality .357 Magnum revolvers in Colt's lineup. Instead, Colt absorbed the 3-5-7 into the Trooper line as a service revolver, not requiring the excellent fit and finish of the 3-5-7 and Python, and not unlike the dichotomy between the S&W Model 28 and Model 27 - A prestige revolver vs. a utilitarian revolver, but mechanically identical, and aimed at two different market segments.
 
Very nice gun Bullet Bob!:) I have lusted after one of those for a long time!
I have a 1968 Trooper 357 I compared to yours, I see the bottom of the trigger guard is polished instead of the matte finish. I posted a picture of my sight to compare to yours.
For those that don't know- Serial Number Data is a good place to date your gun.
Ed



 
the third edition of the Wilson colt book says in the advertising that production up thru 1997 is included in this edition. I haven't got one yet to know for sure.
 
It would be a tossup among several of my favorite guns of all types as to the one I would give up last. My 1959 3-5-7 would certainly be on the short list. But it would definitely be the last of all my revolvers to go.
 
I just pulled out my Colt 357 to have a look. It's a 6" example and the serial # is 65xx. I haven't shot mine for awhile and it remains is an easy 98% condition. These are truly great revolvers and I doubt if they'll ever be made again.
Jim
 
I picked up a low serial number 6-inch Colt 3 5 7 last year after several years of on and off negotiations for it. Still so grateful to the seller.

Stuck up this thread over on "Brand X" forum, a really nice place to be for those of us who are "dually afflicted."

A Colt 3 5 7 Discussion Thread

It would appear that Photobucket wants me to quit sponging off of them for free and pay for some sort of upgrade as they've curtailed the photo links, something they do occasionally lately. I've exceeded their monthly use limit. The photos are suppose to return after the 25th of the month which is the anniversary date that I signed up for photobucket.

Smith & Wessons of traditional classic manufacture are my favorites of all, but nice classic Colts are awfully gratifying to own and shoot as well.
 
Nedlate, do you have a target hammer on your Trooper? I have one made in 1966 and it has the same hammer profile that Saigon1965 has on his, just curious.
 
I happen to be holding the 1969 Gun Digest, which would have come out in 1968.

The retail price for a Colt Trooper was $116.50.

Or, $122.25 "with wide spur hammer and target stocks".

Since the ones you guys have are used, I can only offer $99.00 for them :D
 
I started taking a renewed interest in Colts a few years ago. I had a terrible experience with a Colt King Cobra back in the 90's (bought NIB) and it (along with side by side comparisons at every gun show for several years) poisoned my interest for a long time.

Anyway, after buying my first Python (about the time the prices went crazy) I started to focus on some of the guns with the same lockwork (the .357, Trooper, Police Positive, etc) and recently acquired a Colt Trooper in .38 special (S/N 38xxx) to go with my .357 Trooper (S/N 53xxx). Neither gun has the duo-tone finish, both have frame-mounted firing pins.

I still prefer S&W triggers but the Colts are fun to shoot, too!

Pics tomorrow when I get a chance -

--Neill
 
I am going to have to claim ignorance on what a target hammer is on a Colt! It does appear to be the same as the first 2 guns.
Ed

Returning to this thread to illustrate the difference in the standard "service" hammer on a Colt of the period and the target hammer. Observe the differences in the hammer spurs on this 1953 vintage Official Police (top two) and the 1953 vintage 3 5 7 (bottom two).








 
Here are pics of my recently-acquired Colt Trooper in .38 Special. Front sight has been painted red, and the gun has been holstered quite a bit. Grips are immaculate so there were either removed and held aside or perhaps added by the previous owner.

--Neill



 
Hi northslope;

With their gold medallions those grips were originally for the 2 1/2-inch Python and worth a pretty penny these days.
 
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