Compact Scope for the S&W 15-22

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I would appreciate some feed back regarding a compact scope that would:
1. Cost less than $100.
2. Be able to see the bullet holes on the target @ 100 yds.
3. Conventional scope vs. Red Dot?
Any advice is welcomed.
Thanks,
Dennis.........
 
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Check out Primary Arms web site. I assume you know that a Red Dot will not show .224 Bullet Holes at 100 yds and a regular optical scope will probably need to be of good optical quality and at least 10X to do it. (unless you use "Shoot and See" targets).
Good luck.
 
That is indeed a tall order for $100. I really like my 1X4 Nikon Monarch African, but I can't actually see 22 bullet holes at 100yds and it cost more than $100. On that budget, I would think more like 25 yards. At least for starters. JMO.. Ron
 
I've been using the UTG 3x12x44 compact swat scope w/36 color mil dot cross hairs. It was $104 on amazon and is a great scope, especially for the price. It holds zero, is very very clear, eye relief is great, and is very well built. I did a ton of research on scopes in the $100-$150 range, and it was what I ended up choosing. Primary arms does have some nice stuff, but everything seems to be out of stock. I recommend the UTG, you will be very happy.
 
Vision Remodeling said:
I got the Nikon bdc for 22 3-9x40 $160 can see the holes. NOT happy, it does not hold it's zero.
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Are you sure it's not the mounting or the 15-22 itself that is causing the problem?

Pressure on the quad rail is well known to cause shooting errors on the 15-22.

there are multiple threads here about those issues.
 
Thanks for the info.
Can you see the bullet holes @ 100yds and at which power?
I was leaning towards a UTG 3-9x32 Compact CQB, but I'm not sure
I'll be able to see hit @ 100yds.
I'll check out your UTG scope
 
The one I mentioned really is a great scope. I was skepticle at first, but after reading a bunch of reviews I decided to pull the trigger, and I'm glad I did.
 
yzf128r said:
The one I mentioned really is a great scope. I was skepticle at first, but after reading a bunch of reviews I decided to pull the trigger, and I'm glad I did.
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I have the same one and fully agree, it's a great scope for the price.
 
I have a 3x9 and can definitely not see .22 holes at 100yds. after a few I can see the grouping, but not individual holes
 
pmbspyder said:
I have a 3x9 and can definitely not see .22 holes at 100yds. after a few I can see the grouping, but not individual holes
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So very true. It's going to take a 12x scope and then you still may not see individual holes on plain paper targets.

If one wants to see holes in distant targets, that's what spotting scopes are for. :)
 
I put on a Baraska 3-9x42 BDC drum contour. Has both black and red illuminated cross hairs. I like the scope but can I see holes at a 100...nope. But then again with glasses and clear covers on I'm lucky I can see at 60. Oh yeah, $99.00 at Gander Mountain.
 
went with (UTG 30mm SWAT 3-12X44 Compact IE Scope with AO Mil-dot, 36 Colors EZ-TAP) a little heavy, only been to range once with it on zeroed very easy, was able to see 22 holes at 25-40 meters through sight on 12 power didn't check lower power.
 
If you want to shoot paper at 100yds and use a rifle scope like a spotting scope, then I would forget about the notion of a "compact" scope.

I'd suggest something around 20x. Simmons and BSA both make dime store optics in that magnification range for around $100.
 
yzf128r said:
I've been using the UTG 3x12x44 compact swat scope w/36 color mil dot cross hairs. It was $104 on amazon and is a great scope, especially for the price. It holds zero, is very very clear, eye relief is great, and is very well built. I did a ton of research on scopes in the $100-$150 range, and it was what I ended up choosing. Primary arms does have some nice stuff, but everything seems to be out of stock. I recommend the UTG, you will be very happy.
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+1 ... You can definitely see the holes @ 50yds, I haven't tried it @ 100yds though. Here's what it looks like mounted:
http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-m-p-15-22/249839-pictures-your-optics.html#post136603130
 
This is a update to my original Post.
Today I went to the range with my
Ruger 10/22 w/Barska 6.5-20 Varmit scope. This is the first time I shot the combo at 100 yds. (just recently got the scope).
In order to see the bullet holes on the target, I had to turn the power up to 20x.
So with that in mind, I'm still going with the Compact UTG and buying a spoting scope.

Thanks again for taking the time to reply!

Dennis.......
 
dwilarsk said:
This is a update to my original Post.
Today I went to the range with my
Ruger 10/22 w/Barska 6.5-20 Varmit scope. This is the first time I shot the combo at 100 yds. (just recently got the scope).
In order to see the bullet holes on the target, I had to turn the power up to 20x.
So with that in mind, I'm still going with the Compact UTG and buying a spoting scope.

Thanks again for taking the time to reply!

Dennis.......
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Smart move. Have fun with the combo.
 
Be sure to use Loctite blue thread locker (if your not already) without it
they can get loose and cause your zero to be off. Just a suggestion.
 
At Walmart; CenterPoint 4 X 16 40 AO. Imported and backed by Crossman. Excellent optic for the price, holds zero and repeatable. Hard to beat at $69.00, includes mounts and covers.......best regards Plum
 
tlm3210 said:
Why can't I find something like this in the $300-$400 range (for my Colt AR)? Seems like they go from cheap to high dollar Trijicons.
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You might check out the Burris AR-332 3x scope and the Burris AR-536 5x scope on opticsplanet.com I think the AR-332 3x is $329 shipped and the AR-536 5x is $399 shipped.
 
tlm3210 said:
Why can't I find something like this in the $300-$400 range (for my Colt AR)? Seems like they go from cheap to high dollar Trijicons.
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I suggest looking into this for the AR.

Amazon.com: NcSTAR® 2 - 7x32 mm Mark III Illuminated Reticle Tactical Scope Weaver / Picatinny Mount: Sports & Outdoors

I think it has a rather secure hold onto the rail and even trying to muscle it around, it doesn't budge.

I am only using it on my 22lr, but I think it can definitely handle more. Within the reviews on Amazon, it has a comment from someone that purchased one for their AR and they impressed with it.

Only gripe about it I have is that the light on the reticule is too bright that when using it without good ambient light will cause the whole lens to flare green/red. Aside from that, I rather just keep them off all together as the lines are easy to see in day or night.
 
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