Concealed carry in Post Offices

[Law-dog]

How can one ship a long arm from a Post Office (legal) if having a gun on Post Office property is illegal?
Maybe I missed something.

Yes you are missing something. The topic was carrying a firearm inside a post office or on postal property under the Bruen decision, not an unloaded firearm packaged for shipping IAW other postal restrictions. Bonidy challenged his alleged right to carry a loaded gun, very different issue.

Bruen was about carrying a loaded firearm away from your residence for self defense purposes, read Bruen and the Bonidy briefs, and you will understand. Totally unrelated issue.

 

[Pointblank2U]

It's actually illegal to have a firearm locked up in a vehicle on post office property.

 

[3/4Flap]

Yes you are missing something. The topic was carrying a firearm inside a post office or on postal property under the Bruen decision, not an unloaded firearm packaged for shipping IAW other postal restrictions. Bonidy challenged his alleged right to carry a loaded gun, very different issue.

Bruen was about carrying a loaded firearm away from your residence for self defense purposes, read Bruen and the Bonidy briefs, and you will understand. Totally unrelated issue.

Ah, gotcha.
Thanks for the info and correction.

 

[S&W5906]

The correct answer straight from the US Postal Service:

Possessing a firearm or other dangerous weapon in a federal facility for
other than official purposes, causing such a weapon to be present, or
attempting to do so are punishable by a fine, imprisonment for up to
1 year, or both.

If the prohibited weapon is intended to be used to commit a
crime, the penalty is an increased fine, imprisonment for up to 5 years, or both.
See Title 18, United States Code, Section 930.

No person on U.S. Postal Service® property may carry or store firearms,
explosives, or other dangerous or deadly weapons, either openly or concealed,
except for official purposes. See Title 39, Code of Federal Regulations,
Section 232.1.

Except for employees authorized by the chief postal inspector or the inspector
general, USPS® employees are prohibited from possessing, carrying, or storing
firearms while on duty, either on or off USPS property, and at any time on or
within USPS property. See Administrative Support Manual, Section 276.22.

And official purposes only includes shipping of firearms for non-postal employees. The USPS sets that as policy in 432 of Postal Explorer.
https://pe.usps.com/text/pub52/pub52c4_009.htm And yes, I have legally carried firearms into the local USPS for shipping. I also had let the PO where they would be arriving know that they were coming and made sure they had a secure location for them until picked up. Yes they were checked to make sure they weren't loaded and then the boxes were sealed with tape provided by the USPS and the date stamped all over the tape to secure them as sealed.

 

[roundels]

Indianapolis or Chicago is usually where packages go to be lost , occasionally Cincinnati .

Also North Salt Lake if you're desperate enough to use FedEx. Oh, the stories...

 

[1961MJS]

The Clerk behind the counter has no authority to make policy . They have no obligation to defend the policy to someone that disagrees with it . I don't know what the OP expected to accomplish .

Hi, this seemed like a good one to reply to. I needed to send a firearms PART back to Smith and Wesson. To be precise, I couldn't get the sight apart. The Postmaster in Central Oklahoma said that the post office would NOT ship firearms parts or firearms of any kind. I had to use Federal Express. When I last looked online, the post office is where you're supposed to ship firearms (unloaded). Again, when I looked a few years ago, and If you already owned a firearm and were shipping it back to the factory to be exchanged or fixed, you could ship at the Post Office (just not the one near me).
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[Yendor357]

Don’t take your gun into a post office. It’s not that hard.

Don’t try to cash a check in a PO. Go to a bank.

Get online. Send your firearm UPS.

Just be cool. Working people have enough stress.

 

[1961MJS]

Don’t take your gun into a post office. It’s not that hard.

Don’t try to cash a check in a PO. Go to a bank.

Get online. Send your firearm UPS.

Just be cool. Working people have enough stress.

Ah, UPS in two Oklahoma towns would not ship a firearm back, I was returning it, they sent the wrong one to my FFL and I had taken it. Again, Fedex.
Later

 

[djohns6]

Hi, this seemed like a good one to reply to. I needed to send a firearms PART back to Smith and Wesson. To be precise, I couldn't get the sight apart. The Postmaster in Central Oklahoma said that the post office would NOT ship firearms parts or firearms of any kind. I had to use Federal Express. When I last looked online, the post office is where you're supposed to ship firearms (unloaded). Again, when I looked a few years ago, and If you already owned a firearm and were shipping it back to the factory to be exchanged or fixed, you could ship at the Post Office (just not the one near me).
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The title of this thread was about Concealed Carry in a Post Office . Shipping is a completely different issue with completely different policies .

 

[NYresQ]

In Cheyenne the downtown post office and the US Marshall's office share the same building and though the Marshalls have a separate entrance they sometimes use the PO entrance and they are definitely all packing.

Do you think the prohibition against carrying in a federal facility applies to FEDERAL law enforcement???
Seriously?

P.S. only one “L” in US Marshal…

 

[austinnottx]

The correct answer straight from the US Postal Service:

Possessing a firearm or other dangerous weapon in a federal facility for
other than official purposes, causing such a weapon to be present, or
attempting to do so are punishable by a fine, imprisonment for up to
1 year, or both.

If the prohibited weapon is intended to be used to commit a
crime, the penalty is an increased fine, imprisonment for up to 5 years, or both.
See Title 18, United States Code, Section 930.

No person on U.S. Postal Service® property may carry or store firearms,
explosives, or other dangerous or deadly weapons, either openly or concealed,
except for official purposes. See Title 39, Code of Federal Regulations,
Section 232.1.

Except for employees authorized by the chief postal inspector or the inspector
general, USPS® employees are prohibited from possessing, carrying, or storing
firearms while on duty, either on or off USPS property, and at any time on or
within USPS property. See Administrative Support Manual, Section 276.22.

Third para, then its illegal to leave the cc gun in your parked vehicle while you enter the building, apparently.

 

[Doriangray6]

Do you think the prohibition against carrying in a federal facility applies to FEDERAL law enforcement???
Seriously?

P.S. only one “L” in US Marshal…

Thank you spelling police.
I've know several federal marshals and deputies and as far as I can tell when they think they can get away with it they decide which federal laws and regulations to follow or not follow.

 

[Doriangray6]

Third para, then its illegal to leave the cc gun in your parked vehicle while you enter the building, apparently.

Only if you're using a parking lot, garage, or space designated for the building. If you're parked on a public street then you're okay.