Cracked the Frame on my 4006TSW CHP (Final Update)

[GaryS]

The gun the OP is talking about is a CHP 4006TSW. Which according to the SCSW was made in 2006-07. I'm not sure that it qualifies as an early gun. If it was an early 4006 (1990-1999), then that would be "early."

There's what appears to be a typo on page 370, where it lists 4006TSW production as 2000-2001. Which is beside the point here.

I'm far from a .40 3rd Gen expert, but I thought that the early single stack, like the 4013 were built on .45 frames, and the later double stack guns were built on frames originally designed for 9mm. Or maybe I have that backwards, but the SCSW doesn't specify.

If this was a later production CHP gun and frame cracking was a known issue, I'd think we'd have heard about it by now.

You guys have to remember early, and the 4006 counts as early, 40 cals were largely rebarreled 9mms. HPs, 4006, Sig 226 in 40, Beretta 96, all were based on 9mms.

This was a common concern when these guns first came out. Browning redesigned the HP with a third locking lug and recontoured frame, why do you think they switched from forged to cast frames? Beretta had to reinforce the 96 slide to avoid cracks.

The fact this crack is right where the barrel cams down just tells me it's a wear and tear issue from firing a round the frame was not designed to handle.

 

[CDKJudoka]

Just a heads up, if you do want to find a replacement, CDNN Sports has 4006TSWs for $399.

 

[DAOTSWGUY]

Going to be sending it off

 

[JohnHL]

Going to be sending it off

To where?

Did you contact S&W?

John?

 

[DAOTSWGUY]

To where?

Did you contact S&W?

John?

Yes to Smith and Wesson they said they may or may not be able to help.

 

[mscampbell2734]

The gun the OP is talking about is a CHP 4006TSW. Which according to the SCSW was made in 2006-07. I'm not sure that it qualifies as an early gun. If it was an early 4006 (1990-1999), then that would be "early."

There's what appears to be a typo on page 370, where it lists 4006TSW production as 2000-2001. Which is beside the point here.

I'm far from a .40 3rd Gen expert, but I thought that the early single stack, like the 4013 were built on .45 frames, and the later double stack guns were built on frames originally designed for 9mm. Or maybe I have that backwards, but the SCSW doesn't specify.

If this was a later production CHP gun and frame cracking was a known issue, I'd think we'd have heard about it by now.

Your right in that the double stack guns were built on redesigned 9mm frames. That's my point. The actual manufactured date does not matter. What matters is the 4006 started life as a 9mm design and was then modified to a larger caliber. Not good for longevity.

As for hearing about it why do you think I mentioned both Browning and Beretta? They both had issues with their 40 cal guns requiring fairly extensive modifications.

Later 40 cal designs, H&K USP, Smith M&P, have been designed from the ground up as dual 40 call/9mm platforms and do not have the same issues.

 

[SMSgt]

That’s what I was thinking, as soon as you read the serial # they are going to go “huh that’s odd did you get that new?”

My 4566 was a former duty gun, and S&W CS told me the warranty was no good also. I sent it in and the repair guys didn't charge me a dime, so my only expense was the shipping to them.

Can't always go by what some guy at the front desk tells you.

 

[DAOTSWGUY]

My 4566 was a former duty gun, and S&W CS told me the warranty was no good also. I sent it in and the repair guys didn't charge me a dime, so my only expense was the shipping to them.

Can't always go by what some guy at the front desk tells you.

I’m hoping this is what happens, what do you guys think they will replace the frame? The gun? Or give me money for it?

 

[JohnHL]

I’m hoping this is what happens, what do you guys think they will replace the frame? The gun? Or give me money for it?

You have spun the S&W Customer Service "Wheel of Fortune".

Literally anything can happen.

John

 

[malph]

I’m hoping this is what happens, what do you guys think they will replace the frame? The gun? Or give me money for it?

I hope they do but I'm guessing they won't.

 

[ElectroMotive]

Do they even have any frames to replace it with. If they can't repair, I bet you get half off an M&P

 

[DCowboysCR]

Any update? What did S&W say?

 

[epj]

Any update? What did S&W say?

??????????
Inquiring minds and all that.

 

[roo_ster]

You have spun the S&W Customer Service "Wheel of Fortune".

Literally anything can happen.

John

Ayup. Sent in an old 629 that I bought used for repair and a polish job. Came back, all they charged was for the polish job.

 

[DAOTSWGUY]

Nothing yet still gotta send it off have been busy

 

[Mrnurse]

No to CHP, yes to " well we can offer you a credit to buy a xyz". If you were good with that weapon find another one NIB if you can...

 

[Mrnurse]

Just checked GB... LOTS of them 500.00 and Under, 1 NIB 900.00.

 

[DCowboysCR]

I’m more curious to see if a gunsmith like Bruce Gray etc. can weld the steel frame. I was honestly shocked to see a cracked frame in a CHP 4006. I have one and now I’m considering a couple more just to have parts if nothing else.

 

[DCowboysCR]

Just checked GB... LOTS of them 500.00 and Under, 1 NIB 900.00.

Do you have a link to the NIB 4006 TSW? The only thing I’ve seen at $900 is a “custom” 4006 TSW whatever that’s supposed to mean.

 

[S&W59]

Do you have a link to the NIB 4006 TSW? The only thing I’ve seen at $900 is a “custom” 4006 TSW whatever that’s supposed to mean.

It means they want to get 900-bucks for it. I love overpriced guns with dubious and unsubstantiated gravitas. Ask them for the details or if there's paperwork and watch the bravado just melt.