daniel defence DD5v1 would you spend $3000?

look at this video of a DD5V1 fail. The person dropped it on the ground and the 4 bolts that attach the free floated handguard shifted and caused the rail to be out of alignment with reciever. There were other problems as well. Good thing I did not buy this rifle. also this rifle had issues with trigger failing to reset. Think I will stick to Windham's, Colts, and believe it or not I love my Sport ii. I would be definitely be bummed out had I spent 3K on a rifle and then find out it had many issues. I am also thankful I was here kicking this question around and pondering before making a rash decision. I understand the vast majority of DD owners are not going to drop their DD on the ground, but you don't see ven rifles like Bushmaster or DPMS doing this stuff. Daniel Defense AR15, 2500 Rds Later: Died in my Arms... - YouTube

The fact that a DDI performed worse in that test than a $500 psa AR says worlds to me about the quality. Some day people will realize more money does not equal more quality

I'll stick to my AKs that are built in military factories with dozens of years of building firearms to survive rather than for profit. Where else can you get a rifle that lasts 50,000+ rounds with only spring changes?
 
You don't know Rob do you? He's an ex Polish SF who does AK centric courses. His standard is all rifles have to be AK tough surviving Stalingrad. Some AKs he tests fail, I don't see a Bushmaster surviving he's tests either

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A $500 PSA ar had less issues than that DDI. A $600 Wasr survived it without blinking

Some people want the smoothest, most accurate, bench shooter rifle that money can buy. Others like me want something that will work when needed and with whatever ammo is at hand
 
A $500 PSA ar had less issues than that DDI. A $600 Wasr survived it without blinking

Some people want the smoothest, most accurate, bench shooter rifle that money can buy. Others like me want something that will work when needed and with whatever ammo is at hand

well this Daniel Defense is good for a precision rifle but it was not meant to be dropped or used as a battle rifle I guess. I am glad I passed on this. I was also looking at the SCAR17S but after reading posts how the magwell cracks, barrel is out of alignment no thanks
 
A $500 PSA ar had less issues than that DDI. A $600 Wasr survived it without blinking

Some people want the smoothest, most accurate, bench shooter rifle that money can buy. Others like me want something that will work when needed and with whatever ammo is at hand

Either tight tolerances for accuracy, or loose, to fill with sand and still work. I prefer the accuracy, good looking rails, and that kind of stuff. My ARs most likely won't go into battle anytime soon. They're too expensive to throw at concrete pads. In the meantime, I'll just take them on my weekly runs to the desert, to maintain target proficiency. That's why I own them.

Note: I've assembled three ARs from many different part producers. They're more on the high end, cost wise. However, they all work, all the time. Not a failure yet (see note below). If worse comes to worse, I'll just try not to do drop tests on concrete, prior to use.

Note below: I didn't expect certain 300 Blackout sub-sonic loads to fully cycle the rifle, without a suppressor. They didn't.
 
Either tight tolerances for accuracy, or loose, to fill with sand and still work. I prefer the accuracy, good looking rails, and that kind of stuff. My ARs most likely won't go into battle anytime soon. They're too expensive to throw at concrete pads. In the meantime, I'll just take them on my weekly runs to the desert, to maintain target proficiency. That's why I own them.

Note: I've assembled three ARs from many different part producers. They're more on the high end, cost wise. However, they all work, all the time. Not a failure yet (see note below). If worse comes to worse, I'll just try not to do drop tests on concrete, prior to use.

Note below: I didn't expect certain 300 Blackout sub-sonic loads to fully cycle the rifle, without a suppressor. They didn't.

I feel the same way, do i want a precision or battle rifle etc.. I am contemplating buying a AR15 upper that has a 20" barrel because it has been revealed to me that is the optimal length
 
I feel the same way, do i want a precision or battle rifle etc.. I am contemplating buying a AR15 upper that has a 20" barrel because it has been revealed to me that is the optimal length

The Windham would have been my battle rifle, even though I still had no plans to throw it against concrete to break it in... :eek:

Only thing I changed on it, was to a quad rail (non floating) that were popular back then. Have sold it. One of my ARs has an 18" .223 Wylde barrel. I might go 20" on the next.
 
The Windham would have been my battle rifle, even though I still had no plans to throw it against concrete to break it in... :eek:

Only thing I changed on it, was to a quad rail (non floating) that were popular back then. Have sold it. One of my ARs has an 18" .223 Wylde barrel. I might go 20" on the next.

Throwing against the concrete simulates dropping it, something that could easily happen in a high stress situation where you lose balance
 
Throwing against the concrete simulates dropping it, something that could easily happen in a high stress situation where you lose balance

Yes, I lost balance on a ladder once, and it was four months of high stress recovery. Other than that, I figure the short hand guard on the Windham, would hold up better than some of the finely machined, and long, free float rails, we've got these days. That's what is really demonstrated in the video, where the DD rail shifts. I was also in a high stress situation today, with my new 300 Blackout AR. Traveled 70 miles to the desert, setup targets, the long distant spotting scope, and was ready to go. Left the ammo box home....
 
Yes, I lost balance on a ladder once, and it was four months of high stress recovery. Other than that, I figure the short hand guard on the Windham, would hold up better than some of the finely machined, and long, free float rails, we've got these days. That's what is really demonstrated in the video, where the DD rail shifts. I was also in a high stress situation today, with my new 300 Blackout AR. Traveled 70 miles to the desert, setup targets, the long distant spotting scope, and was ready to go. Left the ammo box home....

this is why if feel keeping things simple is the best. The more weight you add, the more chance of something going wrong. how did you fall off the ladder?
 
build your own

I purchased a Daniel Defense complete upper and a cheaper fully populated lower... I then purchased a quality single stage AR trigger and installed that in the cheap lower... RESULT, I have a very fine rifle at less than half the price of an ALL Dan Def.
 
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