DeHavallin crash...stupid pilot

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Just viewed this on LiveLeak a few minutes ago. Hopefully no one was seriously injured, however, a grand old plane is gone forever.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ed6_1244954465

You know, they have a thing called a "throttle", and when you pull it back, things come to a stop. I wonder if the guy making this take off was aware of that!

HOLY TOLEDO JONES!

As I looked at this video again, I noticed the pilot never got the airplane up on the step, he was tail low on his floats all the way up to breaking water. Maybe this was to keep the water rudders in the water? Maybe he was doing this to try to gain some control? Or maybe, he was just stupid?

That take off could have been aborted a hundred times before he pranged that plane.
 
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A lengthy restoration project ahead of them no doubt!

Here's another oldie that came to rest in an unscheduled landing locally a couple of weeks ago.
Pilot is out of the hospital. A 1947 'Vampire' F. Mk3 jet. Supposedly was the oldest flying jet aircraft in the world(?). Was owned by John Travolta at one time.

Doesn't look too good in the pic. Another story said it was of wood construction and was carted away in pieces, though the wings remained largely intact through the crash.

http://josephletzelterinfo.blogspot.com/2009/06/plane-crash-at-rochester-international.html
 
Definetly pilot err. I dont know how to fly floats or ever been on one. He should have chopped power, got too close to shore, tried to take off too soon. My best guess is a pilot training for his sea plane rateing, or somehow just passed it and shouldnt have. I shouldnt even guess as I am a old pilot that has been inactive for almost 25 years and right now wanting to get back into it.
 
This guy wasn't even close to being able to takeoff. The aircraft wasn't even on "step." The floats have to be on step before you start pulling back on the wheel/stick. Looks like he tried to takeoff on the short dimension of the lake.

Hawkeye
 
I also see he gave himself NO room to get a good run, and he definatly should have known better than to keep heading for the shore instead of aborting, I am a flight simulator pilot and know that
 
I say chaps, he bloody well pranged that kite. That was what my Dad overheard some Brit troops say as they were watching landings and take offs at a AAF base in Africa in WW-2, when a C-47 crashed on landing. Seemed sorta approprate for this one!
 
I have taken off from that exact same place. That is Anchorage's float plane operation next to Anchorage International. Lake Hood and Lake Spenard were connected together with a canal. This pilot somehow never got aligned with the canal to give him the distance needed to get up on the step and start flying. When he saw his problem, he tried to horse the aircraft out of the water and then it stalled. He may have been distracted in the start of the run doing a "float plane cockpit check" and not have been watching real close the direction the plane was taking. Too bad, those Beavers are great planes and make outstanding float planes. .......... Big Cholla
 
A lil "Alabama Chrome" will put it back together and she'll be almost as good as new.
 
He was fighting a crosswind most of the time. It was trying to edge him closer and closer to the shore and he tried to horse it around just before getting airborne. Skidded turn stall in the end. Wouldn't be surprised if he was way overweight either.
 
When I was a kid, we flew into a remote northern Ontario lake and river system on a similar float plane, with our Grumman canoes lashed to the float struts. Dropped off in the approximate middle of nowhere, we spent two weeks living on trout, Spam, Bisquick bannock, and tinned bacon and vegetables, exploring a river route as a possible fishing attraction for an outfitter. Moose, otters, and abundant fish , along with a waterfall or two provided our entertainment and adventure. Fortunately, we had better pilots...
 
I read the press link from n4z0v. I also looked up the location on Google Earth as well as flew the take off from that location in a Beaver in MS Flight Simulator.

For openers, I didn't measure the take off run distance, but it is shorter than you would expect. I wondered when watching the video why the guy was making his take off run out of a right turn?

When the aircraft left the water, it was not on step. I have no idea if he were overweight, but that could be a possibility. He certainly didn't have sufficient airspeed....he just tried to save the day while "heading for the trees." The shift in his take off run was visible, however, as he was heading toward the bank, he made no effort to slow down or stop. It appeared after the wind changed his direction, he could have pulled the power and saved the day.

I've aborted take offs if they weren't going right. That's why they have that little lever called a throttle. Pull it back...and you slow down...or stop.

I've never flown in a Beaver, however I suppose with that round engine in front of you, a slight nose high attitude during the take off run would obscure your forward visibility? That being the case, any change of course during the take off run, especially when you are aiming to go down a narrow channel between two lakes, should be cause to "shut'er down"!

I'll be watching for the offical accident report from this incident. I'm glad everybody walked away,....but this didn't have to happen.
 
Gutpile Charlie said:
I read the press link from n4z0v. I also looked up the location on Google Earth as well as flew the take off from that location in a Beaver in MS Flight Simulator.

For openers, I didn't measure the take off run distance, but it is shorter than you would expect. I wondered when watching the video why the guy was making his take off run out of a right turn?

When the aircraft left the water, it was not on step. I have no idea if he were overweight, but that could be a possibility. He certainly didn't have sufficient airspeed....he just tried to save the day while "heading for the trees." The shift in his take off run was visible, however, as he was heading toward the bank, he made no effort to slow down or stop. It appeared after the wind changed his direction, he could have pulled the power and saved the day.

I've aborted take offs if they weren't going right. That's why they have that little lever called a throttle. Pull it back...and you slow down...or stop.

I've never flown in a Beaver, however I suppose with that round engine in front of you, a slight nose high attitude during the take off run would obscure your forward visibility? That being the case, any change of course during the take off run, especially when you are aiming to go down a narrow channel between two lakes, should be cause to "shut'er down"!

I'll be watching for the offical accident report from this incident. I'm glad everybody walked away,....but this didn't have to happen.
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I did the same thing as well as tried to simulate the crash and I can't seem to do it, have you tried this yet? and if you try tell me what happened
 
I just can't bring myself to watch stuff like that?
Extremely rare examples of classics deserve a better fate then that!
That was like watching someone's Grandmother while her oxygen line is being stood on?
 
That's just.. swell.

My uncle has a 2001 Cessna 206H seaplane. It's a six seater. Very nice! My father, uncle, brother and I went on a 3 week "camping trip" in it in 2002. Best trip ever.
 
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