Derringers

[dsf]

I have a Bond in 45 Colt and an American Derringer in 45 ACP, just bought this Remington made (batch #728) in 41 Rimfire -



All original, everything works.

I went into it knowing that getting ammo would be a PITA. A few on line companies sell brass modified to take 22 blanks as primers. Best one is in France, can't figure out how to get them to ship to US. They have every country in the world listed, but not US.

Anyone else have a a 41 and reload for it?

 

[45Smashemflat]

I had an ADC M1 in 45ACP. Quite the brick!

Neat gun, not the CCW I thought it might be. Traded it for a Benelli M1 after a few years.

 

[sigp220.45]

I have one, but I haven’t tried the french set up for the same reason as you.

Mine has the cracked hinge and a period repair, so I wouldn’t shoot it much anyway. I found some of the Navy Arms rounds and shot it a couple of times just to say I did.

 

[kaaskop49]

I've never seen a Remington D/D in such great condition. There was .41RF ammo available at one time. Old Western Scrounger might have carried it. IIRC, Fiocchi may have produced it.

Lovely gun, but of course it's a relic. That hinge is the weak point in the design. I might fire a couple of factory rounds just to say I did it, like the above poster. But that's about all.

Kaaskop49
Shield #5103

 

[desi2358]

I own one but I've only shot 41 rimfire out of it. Since I also collect and sell ammo I often find partial boxes so I have built up a small stash for occasional use (full boxes have gotten too pricey for me to break into for shooting).

Dixie Gun Works had the cases that used a 22 blank for a primer for years. Have you checked there? I considered buying some a while back, just never got around to doing it. Considering the design of the gun I would simply stick with black powder and a round ball if I ever do start loading for it. It's a simple, easy to clean design even with black powder. Some of the original loads I've shot through mine were black powder and cleanup was simple.

 

[Old cop]

Anyone remember Yancey Derringer, the TV cowboy/gambler from the ‘50s that made the derringer stylish? They are a very cool piece of history but there are much better choices for EDC.

 

[ISCS Yoda]

I've had that derringer for many years, with that original box of ammunition. To me it's just a historical novelty and I would never consider firing it.

Back in my cowboy action days we ran side matches with derringers and you could use almost anything in the right caliber and I can tell you that I wouldn't own or shoot any of those modern derringers because outside of competition for fun I think they're useless. Hard to cock hammers, nasty recoil, who needs that in a defensive handgun?

Then there is this but that's a whole nuthuh smoke as we say.....

And, yes, I have the AOW tax stamp and..........

YES! I remember Yancy Derringer, I loved him and Pahoo, and around a year or so ago I watched every episode on TUBI.

 

[ISCS Yoda]

Side note:

John Wayne's character in the Shootist carried a derringer that was probably a .41 rimfire and that's probably what Richard Boone carried as Paladin in Have Gun Will Travel. Gene Hackman ("John Herod") had a .41 rimfire derringer also in 1995's The Quick and the Dead. Although from the pictures one could surmise that he was actually holding a .22 caliber gun.

I checked the IMFDB and I am correct about the three 1866 Remington derringers in .41 caliber except for the visual noted above in re Gene Hackman's actual gun rather than what it was supposed to be.

 

[locolobo56]

Daughter-in-law has a Bond, I think, 44 mag/410. Damned thing kicks like a mule. Coupla rounds, one each 44/410, was all I could take. I guess 2-1/2" shot with #1 buck might do the trick though.

 

[nutsforsmiths]

I have a Remington Model 95 Derringer that looks a lot like the one Sigp220.45 posted above. It too had a cracked hinge. It came with a bunch of non-working pistols and frames. Didn't have any grips when I got it, so bought some reproduced ones. Everything was frozen, so cleaned it up and it functions fine now.

Don't think I'd shoot it, but would love to find some ammo to display with it.

 

[S-W4EVER]

Anyone remember Yancey Derringer, the TV cowboy/gambler from the ‘50s that made the derringer stylish? They are a very cool piece of history but there are much better choices for EDC.

Yup, like a J Frame...

 

[dsf]

I have one, but I haven’t tried the french set up for the same reason as you.

Mine has the cracked hinge and a period repair, so I wouldn’t shoot it much anyway. I found some of the Navy Arms rounds and shot it a couple of times just to say I did.

Funny thing. On my work computer I can't get to a US address. On my home computer (Chrome) the info auto-completes when I enter my name. I bought the kit, although I think with all my reloading stuff I could cobble together something and some extra cases, bullets. Just need to find some GOEX and acorn blanks.

Guess this makes my reloading for the 25 ACP pretty mainstream.

 

[dsf]

I own one but I've only shot 41 rimfire out of it. Since I also collect and sell ammo I often find partial boxes so I have built up a small stash for occasional use (full boxes have gotten too pricey for me to break into for shooting).

Dixie Gun Works had the cases that used a 22 blank for a primer for years. Have you checked there? I considered buying some a while back, just never got around to doing it. Considering the design of the gun I would simply stick with black powder and a round ball if I ever do start loading for it. It's a simple, easy to clean design even with black powder. Some of the original loads I've shot through mine were black powder and cleanup was simple.

Checked Dixie, out of stock.

You'd think someone might make a chamber & barrel insert to shoot 22 Mag from the thing.

 

[Greyman50]

Many years ago a good friend LEO was awarded a 45 Colt derringer by a judge. He brought it over to my range and we shot it. 1 round was all either of us could manage. Grip is just too small and cartridge has unmanageable recoil. Most
LEO’s I knew carried a Hi Standard 2 shot 22 Mag in an “ extra” handcuff case on duty belt, this was in the 70’s.

 

[Glenn R. McMannly]

I’ve got a bond in .410 and loaded with buckshot defense ammo, it is NOT something to sneeze at.

 

[alwslate]

Way back in the late 60s I had one of the cheap import derringers in .22 LR. Usual point of impact difference between barrels, a toy, not for SD at more than arm's length but better than nothing. A .25 auto is a better choice.

 

[deadin]

I tried to import a 9mm Pinfire reloading kit from France. (Cases, pins, primers, primer holder, slugs and a couple of tools.) I knew that they wouldn't be allowed to ship the primers, so I had a friend in France pick up a kit and remove the primers before shipping it to me.
Anyway the shipment was turned back by US Customs because they don't allow cases or slugs to be imported without a special license.
Could be that HC-collectors just don't want to fool with our customs.....

 

[steelslaver]

I came across a used Cobra with both 22lr and 22 mag barrels for $120 in a shop. I got another project up my sleeve

 

[sigp220.45]

Most LEO’s I knew carried a Hi Standard 2 shot 22 Mag in an “ extra” handcuff case on duty belt, this was in the 70’s.

Yep, Onion Field guns.

I knew undercover guys who carried the HS .22 Magnum because it didn’t look like a cop gun and it was so loud if they corked one off they were sure their backup guys would hear it.

 

[dsf]

I tried to import a 9mm Pinfire reloading kit from France. (Cases, pins, primers, primer holder, slugs and a couple of tools.) I knew that they wouldn't be allowed to ship the primers, so I had a friend in France pick up a kit and remove the primers before shipping it to me.
Anyway the shipment was turned back by US Customs because they don't allow cases or slugs to be imported without a special license.
Could be that HC-collectors just don't want to fool with our customs.....

Well, I'll find out shortly. They shipped, without the 22 acorns.