Do not disrespect the flag!

[jcelect]

Listed below are some of the things I learned in KINDERGARDEN!


Title 4, United States Code, Chapter 1

§ 8. Respect for flag

No disrespect should be shown to the flag of the United States of America; ...


...The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing....



Title 36, Subtitle I, Part A section 301 United States Code – National Anthem

(a) Designation.— The composition consisting of the words and music known as the Star-Spangled Banner is the national anthem.
(b) Conduct During Playing.— During a rendition of the national anthem—

(1) when the flag is displayed—
(A) individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until the last note;
(B) members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are present but not in uniform may render the military salute in the manner provided for individuals in uniform; and
(C) all other persons present should face the flag and stand at attention with their right hand over the heart, and men not in uniform, if applicable, should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and

(2) when the flag is not displayed, all present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed.

Sir, if you are as old as me you forgot one more important thing taught.

The Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag!

I can remember all through grade school, every morning, facing the flag(which was in EVERY class room at that time), my right hand over my heart, and reciting the pledge of allegiance! Can anyone under the age of 40 recite the pledge?

 

[WardenRoss]

...you forgot one more important thing taught.

The Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag!...

Didn't forget it, it's in section four.

I just didn't list it

To be honest, I didn't realize the school kids have quit reciting it.

We did it every morning as the school principle led us thru the PA system, school wide.

 

[Rustyt1953]

Unlike almost all here, I wasn't born wrapped in the American flag. I had to earn mine so it is very dear to me.

I don't believe, for one second, that any breathing member here would improperly display, damage, inappropriately use or disgrace the emblem of our freedom.

If my neighbors hang flags upside down or use them as seat covers there is nothing I can do about it other than try to be their friend and win them over to a more respectful way of thinking. Berating them drives the wedge deeper.

I do not like the kneeling but I will not let a tiny group dictate my entertainment choices.

I believe my DD-214 and that little trip to SEA have afforded me that right.

Isn't freedom grand?

 

[MRB1]

I keep a lighted flag up 24/7, unless of inclement weather. A year uses two flags. The retired flags are surrendered at the VFW Post, and I buy two replacements for another year. The disrespect of my flag I see today doesn't really bother me too much because those people aren't worth worrying about. They're just trying to get attention.

 

[ladder13]

It’s interesting that a country that was founded on rebellion against an over reaching government has so many who are against those who now rebel

Very..........

 

[sigp220.45]

I'm a patriot, too. I wore my country's uniform for 8 years, and carried its badge for another 25.

I would never kneel, or disrespect the flag. But I would never want to live in a country where doing so is illegal.

I don't worry about how other people exercise their First Amendment rights, just as I don't expect others to worry about how I exercise my Second Amendment rights.

We used to say "I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." I still believe that.

 

[Kanewpadle]

So......We have millionaire football players that score a touchdown, then they grab their crouch or some other vile display of poor sportsmanship and now they want respect?

So how do you explain that to youngsters watching? Are you going to tell them that it’s just a sport? That it’s normal? Or do you tell them that it’s completely unacceptable? And then turn around and tell them that it ok to kneel?

Which is it? Or do you tell them that we all have the right to express ourselves but there’s a time and a place for it? To use good judgment and common sense?

And maybe you don’t think it’s about the flag. But it sure as hell is about what the flag represents.

 

[Rustyt1953]

It took a whopping 4 posts to turn this into an 'I hate the NFL thread'.

Im gonna go watch the game.

 

[ladder13]

Overpaid? I call that capitalism. An employer and employee reaching a mutual agreement on compensation for services.
Most make more in one year then I made in my whole career risking my life. I’m not bitter, nor jealous. America.

 

[sigp220.45]

So......We have millionaire football players that score a touchdown, then they grab their crouch or some other vile display of poor sportsmanship and now they want respect?

So how do you explain that to youngsters watching? Are you going to tell them that it’s just a sport? That it’s normal? Or do you tell them that it’s completely unacceptable? And then turn around and tell them that it ok to kneel?

Which is it? Or do you tell them that we all have the right to express ourselves but there’s a time and a place for it? To use good judgment and common sense?

And maybe you don’t think it’s about the flag. But it sure as hell is about what the flag represents.

I thought we were talking about the flag. I watch football all the time and I haven’t seen this “crouch” grabbing you mention.

As far as kneeling during the anthem goes, I would tell them we live in a free country, and our citizens have the right to express their feelings about it. Even millionaires who play a kids game.

I don't have to agree with it. I'm a big boy.

I don't have to watch the game. Their employer doesn't have to let them do it.

Freedom. Its not just for people I agree with.

 

[labworm]

Overpaid? I call that capitalism. An employer and employee reaching a mutual agreement on compensation for services.
Most make more in one year then I made in my whole career risking my life. I’m not bitter, nor jealous. America.

"I'll second that emotion"

Thanks Smokey

See ya, have to get back to the NFL thread.

 

[Muss Muggins]

Freedom, but only in the manner that I dictate to you . . .

 

[paplinker]

Freedom, but only in the manner that I dictate to you . . .

Well thats always been the case.

Wonder what it would be like to totally do as I please.

 

[WardenRoss]

...I don't worry about how other people exercise their First Amendment rights, just as I don't expect others to worry about how I exercise my Second Amendment rights...

But, are you concerned with keeping your Second Amendment rights as much as you are concerned about defending their First Amendment rights?

You're defending an organization that is an enemy against the Second Amendment. Their policy is to even disarm Sworn Officers.

 

[Rastoff]

I think we may have been derailed here a little.

This thread has nothing to do with restricting anyone's liberty. It's simply about the manner in which a flag is properly displayed. Many people simply don't know or misunderstand how it's supposed to be handled. It is a specific thing that has a specific purpose and meaning.

Liberty means being free within society from oppressive restrictions imposed by authority on one's way of life, behavior, or political views. It means the government can't restrict what I want to do as long as it doesn't interfere with other people's liberty.

The US flag doesn't belong to you, it belongs to us. Displaying it at half mast to denote the death of your political view or displaying it upside down because your personal viewpoint is in distress is disrespectful to everyone who isn't you.

 

[TomkinsSP]

Magnets, bumper stickers, decals. I'm no fan of Bill Maher, but he was right (Displaying the flag) "it REALLY is the LEAST (one) can do".

Municipalities buy literal tons of cheap plastic flags (manufactured in China) and stick them out on Veterans Day and July 4th. They get beaten by weather, urinated on and eventually trashed.

Car lots, grocery stores, other businesses can't seem to differentiate flags from pennants.

 

[Muss Muggins]

It means the government can't restrict what I want to do as long as it doesn't interfere with other people's liberty.

The US flag doesn't belong to you, it belongs to us. Displaying it at half mast to denote the death of your political view or displaying it upside down because your personal viewpoint is in distress is disrespectful to everyone who isn't you.

These statements are diametrically opposed . . .

 

[Rastoff]

No, they're not.

I just deleted a lot of typing. If you don't already get it, no amount of explanation will help.

 

[kobsw]

I no longer watch or support anything related to NFL football because of the disrespect for the flag and our nation.

coachray, I've done the same and in fact I started to get a bad taste in my mouth for all sports and have simply walked away.

It's liberating and made me realize that there's much more important things than worshiping grown, pompous, indignant "men" making obscene amounts of money for playing nothing more than a kids games.

Best Regards,

Kobsw

 

[Muss Muggins]

coachray, I've done the same and in fact I started to get a bad taste in my mouth for all sports and have simply walked away.

It's liberating and made me realize that there's much more important things than worshiping grown, pompous, indignant "men" making obscene amounts of money for playing nothing more than a kids games.

Best Regards,

Kobsw

But you must admit that if you were capable, you'd play . . .