MaximumLawman
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What if there are aliens watching us from 35 light years away....Would they try to emulate our ways and build giant space discos?
Do you believe?
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williamlayton
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NO! Is an easy answer. The answer is still, NO!
Blessings
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Imagination=fiction. If you stare into the dark long enough you can see anything.
feralmerril
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There is a couple verses in the bible acknowlegeing other celestial systems. I probley shouldnt have brought it up without quoteing it exactly but maybe I will look it up later and post. Hope someone else beats me to it though.
feralmerril
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1 corinthians 15: 40 King james version. There are celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
41: There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
I have also read other referances that can be interupted I suppose on how you want to, but this is what I could immediately find.
41: There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
I have also read other referances that can be interupted I suppose on how you want to, but this is what I could immediately find.
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! It seems that someone in the not too distant past imagined the earth to be round, not flat, and then set sail. Someone imagined a government where people could live free and not bow down to the whims of kings. Someone imagined what it would be like to launch a human into "outer space" and later on, land a few on our moon. Someone even imagined an electrical impulse passing through wires once. And finally, someone imagined a piece of lead being fired very fast through a barrel which is why we are all gathered here on this form. "Imagination = fiction"? Wow!Delos
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Mathmatically
Mathematically speaking, right now, there are more aliens watching us from over 70 million light years away (70 million years ago time frame). So most looking at us only see dinosaurs ripping each other up with really big teeth.
It is the only reason we have not had any physical evidence of being visited. The videos they show thier students are worse than our Hollywood fiction. Dinosaurs being picked up by tornados would be popular? Dinosaurs being swept out to sea in a tidal wave? As the various Ice Ages melted there were giant floods at various times.
But then one day the nest of dinosaur eggs probably had some visitors. Rats and cockroaches attacked their eggs from tunnels in bottom of the nest. Perhaps it was watched by "Earth Rover" robots sending pictures home? Maybe this planet was put on the no fly list.
Mathematically speaking, right now, there are more aliens watching us from over 70 million light years away (70 million years ago time frame). So most looking at us only see dinosaurs ripping each other up with really big teeth.
It is the only reason we have not had any physical evidence of being visited. The videos they show thier students are worse than our Hollywood fiction. Dinosaurs being picked up by tornados would be popular? Dinosaurs being swept out to sea in a tidal wave? As the various Ice Ages melted there were giant floods at various times.
But then one day the nest of dinosaur eggs probably had some visitors. Rats and cockroaches attacked their eggs from tunnels in bottom of the nest. Perhaps it was watched by "Earth Rover" robots sending pictures home? Maybe this planet was put on the no fly list.
Delos
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Looking at the past
Explanation:
When we look through Hubble, or newer telescopes, at galaxies millions or billions of light years away -- we are seeing them as they were that long ago.
The light from them is very old light that has been traveling a long long time. Everything we see is "OLD NEWS".
Anyone looking at us is seeing OLD NEWS.
And if Einstein was right about nothing being able to travel faster than the speed of light -- we can never be visited by anyone from any other galaxy, and only a very small part of our Milky Way nearest us.
(And when I was young Dick Tracy had a wrist radio TV that was so futuristic as to be laughable. Vacuum tubes could never be built that small)
Explanation:
When we look through Hubble, or newer telescopes, at galaxies millions or billions of light years away -- we are seeing them as they were that long ago.
The light from them is very old light that has been traveling a long long time. Everything we see is "OLD NEWS".
Anyone looking at us is seeing OLD NEWS.
And if Einstein was right about nothing being able to travel faster than the speed of light -- we can never be visited by anyone from any other galaxy, and only a very small part of our Milky Way nearest us.
(And when I was young Dick Tracy had a wrist radio TV that was so futuristic as to be laughable. Vacuum tubes could never be built that small)
feralmerril
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Try this one out. This isnt my idea but I remember my dad bringing it up many years ago. Okay. We see stars that emitted light many light years after that light was emitted. Suppose we had a vehicle or means of darting in space and out raceing the "light" or events on our own planet?
Would we be able to "dock" back in time and watch the civil war, maybe speed ahead farther and watch the crucifiction?
Think of the money we could make on horse races etc!
Think judgement day might be something like that to where we could dial in to actualy see crimes and sins as they happen? There would be no lieing out of it either!
Would we be able to "dock" back in time and watch the civil war, maybe speed ahead farther and watch the crucifiction?
Think of the money we could make on horse races etc!
Think judgement day might be something like that to where we could dial in to actualy see crimes and sins as they happen? There would be no lieing out of it either!
I saw a bunch of UFOs once. I (of course) had been drinking with a buddy at the time. They were almost as bright as stars and flying in the most bizarre, unexplainable way over the highway. We could see these from a balcony of a building.
Got in his car (after drinking, not terribly bright) and went to investigate. Got up close and verified that they were bats, illuminated by the flood lights on a billboard by the highway. Apparently they were soaking up the heat from the lights and just flying around erratically, having a merry time of it.
I haven't ever had the cojones to re-tell that story before, because I feel so stupid.
Got in his car (after drinking, not terribly bright) and went to investigate. Got up close and verified that they were bats, illuminated by the flood lights on a billboard by the highway. Apparently they were soaking up the heat from the lights and just flying around erratically, having a merry time of it.
I haven't ever had the cojones to re-tell that story before, because I feel so stupid.
Straightshooter2
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It doesn't matter what you believe...a Creator, a ball of energy/matter in a completely dark place exploded and everything came into being or that everything has always been here. To not believe in some form of life being created elsewhere or developing from chemicals combined in the mud or whatever is, to me anyway, arrogance. God never said he only created Adam and Eve. Or if everything came from that same ball of matter/always existed, then the chemicals that combined on earth to create life almost surley had to combine elsewhere in the billion billion star systems out there.
Is there life out there? Almost surely. Intelligent life? Define intelligent. Can they travel faster than light? Who knows but just as a 19th century steam locomotive would appear to be impossible magic to a 10th century monk, walking on the moon would appear to be impossible magic to a 19th century Native American, so traveling faster than light would seem to be impossible magic to us. I do know that I was watching a satellite as it moved roughly west to east one night when I was a kid. The satellite suddenly made a sharp left turn and headed north. Was it a alien spacecraft? It did something an airplane could not do in the 1960's but I don't know for sure. What I do know is, based on the current level of "enlightenment" on this planet, if I was them I sure as heck wouldn't let anyone catch me!
CW
Is there life out there? Almost surely. Intelligent life? Define intelligent. Can they travel faster than light? Who knows but just as a 19th century steam locomotive would appear to be impossible magic to a 10th century monk, walking on the moon would appear to be impossible magic to a 19th century Native American, so traveling faster than light would seem to be impossible magic to us. I do know that I was watching a satellite as it moved roughly west to east one night when I was a kid. The satellite suddenly made a sharp left turn and headed north. Was it a alien spacecraft? It did something an airplane could not do in the 1960's but I don't know for sure. What I do know is, based on the current level of "enlightenment" on this planet, if I was them I sure as heck wouldn't let anyone catch me!
CW
feralmerril
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As I understand it this planet earth is like a grain of sand on the beach or a speck of lint in a cotton mill. Takes a lot of audacity to believe we are the only one to be favored with life. Also as I understand it, you can take a very minute piece of you flesh and if you can magnify it high enough its like atoms circling each other like a moon circling our planet.
If there is such a thing as evolution, why dont we see apes turning into humans today?
If there is such a thing as evolution, why dont we see apes turning into humans today?
cmort666
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You'd think the British and French would know the same thing.
You might want to Google "Fashoda"...
cmort666
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If there is such a thing as plate tectonics, why don't we see the continents moving toward and away from each other?
cmort666
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I don't know, did the British emulate the way of the Iroquois and build giant drafty hogans? Did the Royal Navy emulate them and build giant birch bark canoes?
Delos
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Always a reason
No doubt the Bats were gorging themselves on bugs attracted by the light. Bats eat bugs they catch in the air. Bats make love in caves hanging upside down from ceilings.
Bats are stranger than UFO aliens. There is no shame in not understanding bat behavior. It makes you one of the majority.
If you want to know more about Bats or other critters you need to ask my brother or his overly educated kid. I have watched him walk up a hill, with kid 20 feet behind, turning over rocks, picking up bugs or reptiles and putting them in jars or bags.
Critter people are stranger than UFO people, that hang out near military airports at night with cameras and binoculars. I hear the only sane ones in the group were talking with a russian accent.
I saw a bunch of UFOs once. I (of course) had been drinking with a buddy at the time. They were almost as bright as stars and flying in the most bizarre, unexplainable way over the highway. We could see these from a balcony of a building.
Got in his car (after drinking, not terribly bright) and went to investigate. Got up close and verified that they were bats, illuminated by the flood lights on a billboard by the highway. Apparently they were soaking up the heat from the lights and just flying around erratically, having a merry time of it.
I haven't ever had the cojones to re-tell that story before, because I feel so stupid.
No doubt the Bats were gorging themselves on bugs attracted by the light. Bats eat bugs they catch in the air. Bats make love in caves hanging upside down from ceilings.
Bats are stranger than UFO aliens. There is no shame in not understanding bat behavior. It makes you one of the majority.
If you want to know more about Bats or other critters you need to ask my brother or his overly educated kid. I have watched him walk up a hill, with kid 20 feet behind, turning over rocks, picking up bugs or reptiles and putting them in jars or bags.
Critter people are stranger than UFO people, that hang out near military airports at night with cameras and binoculars. I hear the only sane ones in the group were talking with a russian accent.
MaximumLawman
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No, but they started smoking their tobacco and various herbs.
Take a look at some of the nanotechnology research and theories going on. Tech hasn't slowed down, it's just getting harder to see!
s1mp13m4n
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No, I do not believe in aliens. I believe in the Bible. I do not get in to theory's such as Big Bang, evolution, etc. when look at history, humanities for example and see when, where, from who, and how theories and belief systems come along.....well lets just say beliefs such as big bang and aliens is rather recent...as in Darwin and Marx. They basically brought back an old belief system from Greece hundreds of years earlier.
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Aliens are God. We were monkeys until they got here.
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