Does S&W plan to drop the internal lock in the future?

[Stopsign32v]

Is this something that is here to stay or do you think the lock will eventually go away? I know enthusiast hate it and even the peons at Academy behind the counter have noted to me that other customers walked away when they saw they only had the locked versions. So obviously S&W knows people do not like this modification. So why is it still here?


Also do you think "pre lock" revolver's value will take a hit on the secondary market?

 

[Irn-Bru]

It's here to stay, and S&W have no reason to remove it. They have Ruger as the only real competition, and they are selling enough. If Colt start making revolvers again, then they might have something to think about.

 

[Dave Lively]

Like the ugly writing on Ruger revolvers it is here to stay. If they had not put the lock in before the 2005 law protecting gun makers from political and frivolous lawsuits they would probably not have done so. But now that it is there removing it could be construed as removing an important safety feature that S&W thought was needed 20 years ago.

I would prefer not to have a lock but the one on my SW69 has never caused any sort of problem. As long as Smith doesn't let the lawyers mess with the light, crisp SA trigger pull they are known for I will keep buying them despite the lock.

 

[CajunBass]

The fact that they're still making them tell me they're selling them, in spite of what we read here, and hear there. SOMEONE is buying them or Smith & Wesson would have more than one warehouse full of them by now.

As long as people are buying them, why should they change? It's been around so long that an entire generation of people have grown up who have never known a Smith & Wesson that didn't have a lock. They expect it to have a lock.

I've had about a dozen of them. Still have two. It's a non-issue to me.

 

[AlwaysArmed]

Every time you see that lock, write your congressman before they put them on their pistols. I contact my congressman and two senators about twice a month concerning 2A. You can do it online.

 

[Florida J Frame]

The average person (not our membership) sees it as a benefit and the gun salesman isn't going to tell them any different.

 

[smithman]

If they do remove the locks, I'd consider buying new again.

 

[FlyFish]

If they do remove the locks, I'd consider buying new again.

Exactly. I haven't bought a new S&W revolver, and have no intention of buying one, since they started with the locks. S&W doesn't care - they're doing just fine without my money, and I'm doing just fine spending it on the guns they made a few decades ago.

 

[75Vette]

Good Lord man!

 

[silentflyer]

If they did remove the IL, some lawyer would be filing a huge lawsuit the first time one of the "new" lock less guns was involved in an accidental discharge, or worse yet injury or death.

 

[blues7]

The way things are going, in the not too distant future you may count yourself fortunate to be able to get your hands on an IL model.

It's fine to have your likes, dislikes and favorites but really, there is a much bigger picture requiring attention. This constant harping on the IL is divisive at best when unity is called for under the current circumstances.

 

[NYlakesider]

If they did remove the IL, some lawyer would be filing a huge lawsuit the first time one of the "new" lock less guns was involved in an accidental discharge, or worse yet injury or death.

For sure!

Too bad the cost and logistics is too large to have your choice in ALL models (Lock--No lock) Of course to do that that they would have to go back to the pre lock shape earlier non lock guns had. Let the buyers decide what they want!

Hey I can dream cant I?

 

[Stopsign32v]

The way things are going, in the not too distant future you may count yourself fortunate to be able to get your hands on an IL model.

It's fine to have your likes, dislikes and favorites but really, there is a much bigger picture requiring attention. This constant harping on the IL is divisive at best when unity is called for under the current circumstances.

So we can't talk about IL in a post on a message board online because there are more important things in life? And I do not see myself counting myself fortunate to get an IL revolver in the future.

 

[amazingflapjack]

As to the value-in the future and now-just take a cruse through GB and compare the same models; lock and no lock. The asking rices in some cases are astoundingly different, with non locks way more than the holers.

 

[Camster]

If they do remove the locks, I'd consider buying new again.

Doubtful.You wouldn't like the larger lettering,or the frame contour if they kept it the same,or the two piece barrels,or the finish,or something else.No shortage of the old ones out there.My LGS always has plenty,fairly priced,as there are plenty of older guys downsizing,giving up the interest,moving,and dying.Any gun popular in the seventies will hit the market again,sooner or later....

I was never really bothered by it,and owned a few.The frame contour bothered me more than the IL.
Anyway,the sawdust from this same old log being sawed over and over again,is getting pretty deep.

 

[blues7]

So we can't talk about IL in a post on a message board online because there are more important things in life? And I do not see myself counting myself fortunate to get an IL revolver in the future.

I certainly didn't say you couldn't. But really, the continued flogging of this issue, (without anything new and substantive being brought forward), is like being chained to a chair and forced to watch reruns of your least favorite tv show ad nauseum.

But if it makes you happy, have at it. Sorry for the interruption.

 

[shawn mccarver]

Those who don't like the lock can buy older models or other makes without such a device, or remove it. Enough said.

As to S&W's plans, it is doubtful that any person on this forum has authority to speak for S&W on the topic. Thus, you should ask S&W. I suspect I know the answer you will get.

 

[Sconnie]

Good Lord man!

You are one of the ones who always feels it is necessary to chime in on this particular topic saying a discussion on the topic is beating a dead horse and of no interest to you. And yet you feel the NEED to chime in rather than just keep it to yourself and move along to the next thread.

Whew, didn't get that in before the admin shut down the other thread.

And no, S&W probably will not stop putting on the internal lock. Although it seems like I have seen people talking about some new S&W revolver that did not have the lock.

http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-re...esson-revolvers-still-available-no-locks.html

 

[Arm]

For me the lock is a none issue. I have several pre locks and, have a few with locks. It's still a Smith and, performs rather well, fit and finish are very good. Each to his own I guess. I remember the doom sayers when seat belts and, computer controlled cars came along. Guess the anti lock guys are still driving 53 buicks...LOL.

 

[Lou_the_welder]

This thread smells of "lock" real soon!