Doomsday preppers

Cpo1944

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Lately there is so much talk about Zombies and doomsday and bugging out vehicles and guns and on and on.

I can understand folks are worried about the current state of things and rightly so, but I am very confused about the BUG OUT mentality.

If the shtf scenario actually happened, where are you going to bug out to? Some one is already there and he will certainly resent your intrusion-assuming you actually made it to There.

If one bugs out, your probably just going to die on some lonesome road far from home among strangers - who will take what ever you had of value.

I believe I`ll just wait it out here at home among friends, and try to correct the badness if I can and help those in need while I can.

Might be a good time to sell off some of my guns and ammo to the Good Guys, do a little gunsmithing/blacksmithing general repairs, help neighbors ,raise a garden, who knows. I have to do something useful.

No bugging out for me, I`m staying put!
 
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I'm prepped and staying put. My garden is very fertile so we can grow anything in a timely manner. I have plenty of salad dressing for the fresh lettuce and tomatoes. We grow just about everything. I have stocked up on flour and baking goods plus canned meats. I have a baking oven for the top of the wood stove too. I'm still stocking up. Next I'm thinking about getting chickens for fresh eggs and meat and rabbits for meat. I really think we can survive what ever is going to happen. I also have cake, brownie, cornbread, and cookie mixes too. Soon I'll be doing a liquor run to stock up on beer, wines and liquor too. Don't forget the coffee and hot chocolate too.
 
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First let me say I don't think we will ever see the need in our time. Nothing wrong with be prepared though. In a case anything (zombies, vampires, economic collapse, uprising, ect) were to happen there will be a major rush to grab resources, any resources. The idea of bugging out in my opinion is to put some distance between you, and the people who may want to take what you have. Most seriously concerned folks have a bug out location selected, preped and supplied. May be a friend or family members place out in the country, or a piece of land with access to fresh water and some cover to lay low for a while. In any case if a disaster happens that will affect our ability to get what we need the best thing to do, again just my opinion, is to get out of town. This pretty much applies to city folk only. If it ever got bad enough a small town would be a dangerous place. I honestly hope we never see it.
 
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I think the Preppers have a name for that, too. It's referred to "Bugging In".

I'm serious. You can't make this stuff up.

I love zombie movies, but what really scares me is that there are people out there who are preparing for zombies. As in actual, rising-from-the-dead-gotta-shoot-em-in-da-head zombies. You've probably met them. They are the same people who buy Mossberg products. :D
 
You don't have to Prep for a specific situation like most of the TV show has you to believe. The program is worth watching because you may find something that will help you prepare. The wife and I do a little prepping because you never know what might happen. I want to make sure that if something does happen my wife and our two German Shepards are cared for. If we are attacked the dogs will have plenty of meat that I just shot.:)
 
Really, I think nothing much is going to happen. ... Quit watching too much TV, and get on with life. USA will still be USA for the next 100 years, a little messed up yes, but there will never be any ZOBMIES !!! Keep Cool Guys. Save your ammo! :cool::cool:
 
but what really scares me is that there are people out there who are preparing for zombies. As in actual, rising-from-the-dead-gotta-shoot-em-in-da-head zombies. You've probably met them. They are the same people who buy Mossberg products. :D

The ones I read about have Mossys, shotties and their dogs are Dobies or Rotties. Larry
 
Zombies = no way, will never happen
Biological/Chemical/Nuclear attacks from terrorist = plausible with an ever increasingly rising risk
Gov't/NATO driven gun confiscation = not likely but with the failed social experiment we have in office now, we may be getting closer

I'm more worried about social break down from the lagging economy and the nation's moral compass pointing directly south. If it gets worse, I think we will see more desperate people wanting what you have.
 
If the shtf scenario actually happened, where are you going to bug out to? Some one is already there and he will certainly resent your intrusion-assuming you actually made it to There.

If one bugs out, your probably just going to die on some lonesome road far from home among strangers - who will take what ever you had of value.

Exactly right 10000%

Especially for people like me who live in a large metro area. I live in Central Florida, the closest place I would feel "safe" to bug-out to would be deep in the mountains of North Carolina. That's 9 hours and a tank and a half of gas on a good day. In a SHTF scenario, the likelihood of making it 100 miles North on I-75 is slim to none. We have seen what happens when people try to evacuate for Hurricanes, the roads get clogged up, all the gas stations run out of gas. In a true SHTF scenario, the interstates would be warzones. Even if you could make it out of Florida, you would have to make it through Atlanta. Fat chance in a SHTF. Then you would have to deal with the local people in the Mountains who are already established, quiet and to themselves, they would not deal with a mass influx of intruders.

So I have resigned to the fact that I will be staying put and hopefully using some of that 30,000 rounds of ammo to defend my family, for at least a while.

I believe I`ll just wait it out here at home among friends, and try to correct the badness if I can and help those in need while I can.

Yep

Might be a good time to sell off some of my guns and ammo to the Good Guys, do a little gunsmithing/blacksmithing general repairs, help neighbors ,raise a garden, who knows. I have to do something useful.

I figured best case scenario, I could arm a few houses in my neighborhood and fight off intruders.

No bugging out for me, I`m staying put!

With you on this!
 
I'm bugging out early. Going to retire in 7 or fewer weeks, leaving the big city's behind. Going to my 160 acre farm. Yep going to hold off thousands of screaming zombies and defeat thousand man armies of wondering scavengers as they arrive from the cities behind them. Going to do it all from a wood frame house.

Oh my, I'd better clean the guest bedroom to keep the Jersey milk cow and chickens in. Hmm, I guess the sheep, cattle and hogs can stay in the basement. Hay in the attic, use the tubs for gardens as we won't have running water, Lets see what am I forgetting? Dear, don't throw the cow out in the yard the zombies is a coming. Whoa unhand that pig, I'm telling you the end is near, and she says yep, getting real close to the end... Nothing like a wife to stop a zombie attack, ruin having your stuff real close, why heck I could have milked the cow in my PJ's.

The milk cow whispered to me that perhaps we should bug out as the little lady is acting sort of different. OH NO! Has my honey been bit by a zombie????????

Having to bug out from your bug out place is not right. I'll get back to you guys and gals after I get internet run to my new bug out spot......
 
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I'm staying put. I mean, somebody's gotta stay here to feed the livestock, collect the eggs, weed the garden, etc.

Got plenty of water, can grow pretty much just about everything we need in terms of fruits and vegetables. Got some nice pasture area for the livestock.

We're surrounded by several great trout streams. We live within walking distance of the mountains. Plenty of deer, elk, wild turkey...of course, during the proverbial zombie attack, those resources would be depleted pretty darn quick.

I really don't know if anything drastic like that will ever happen. If so, we'll probably be seeing our kids and grandkids heading back home to the farm. Glad to have 'em. We've got plenty of room.
 
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I'm more worried about social break down from the lagging economy and the nation's moral compass pointing directly south. If it gets worse, I think we will see more desperate people wanting what you have.



I'm sorry to say that's all ready happening, and I don't see it changing any time soon.
 
When I go to Florida I see Zombies all the time Blue Hair and Mascaria! No major threat though, just drive slow.
 
International news should strengthen some prepper hoards. Have you seen the news about Venezuela's TP (Aka toilet paper, poop paper, Barry O.'s college transcript, etc.) shortage? Talk about riots... what a horror. I will be 'bugging in'... where my TP resides...

HOARD TP!

Stainz
 
Mel Tappan wrote extensively on this subect 30+ years ago. He would agree with jack oconner and others on this. If you're serious about this stuff, not the Zombie part, you're already where you need to be before it gets ugly. I believe if he were still alive, he would have used his term, the "backpacker mentality," to describe bugging out. He explains, in detail, why this is unlikely to succeed. I don't think anything like TEOTWAWKI is likely within my lifetime. In any case, I'm staying in the community where I've lived for several years, where people know me, I know them, and we have already developed relationships. Being the bugging out outsider/stranger does not seem likely to be rewarding to me...ymmv
 
I love the fact that EVERYBODY believes that they will "kill anybody who attacks them"

Ok buddy, when you fend off a gang of 17 with weapons with you and your wifes' .22 I'll be laughing
 
If there is ever a mass panic involving people fleeing huge population areas in the US it will be caused by one of two things:

1. Disastrous crop failures resulting in extremely short food supplies and extremely high prices. Imagine the ATL five days into situation where no food was being trucked in. Then, 10 days.

2. A devastating epidemic of some sort. A very deadly flu bug could do it. Can you imagine what would happen in NYC, LA, or any other population center if there were reports of thousands of people per day dying from some illness?

Of course, a devastating natural disaster on a regional basis could do the same thing. Imagine Katrina, Andrew, Hugo, Sandy, and Camille all in one hurricane season. Or a series of earthquakes in the west and/or midwest. Even an abnormal solar storm season could cause big problems.

I still believe disease or famine will be the trigger.
Me and Thomas Malthus.
 
Anyone in the northeast can tell you when a big snow storm is predicted the stores are instantly out of milk, bread and water. It wouldn't take much to really interrupt the food supply in the US. I like to keep plenty of canned goods and some water on hand, we use it anyway and if the S does HTF I'm good for a week or 10 days until things settle down. A little 2K generator and two 5 gallon cans of gas held us over during Sandy, no power for 10 days. I guess I'm bugging in. Keep a loaded rifle near the back door.
 
I love the fact that EVERYBODY believes that they will "kill anybody who attacks them"

Ok buddy, when you fend off a gang of 17 with weapons with you and your wifes' .22 I'll be laughing

I didn't get the impression people were saying that.

I figure if we ever get to the scenario where the proverbial "ship hits the sand," and some guy and his family are seriously hungry...and if he's willing to put forth the time, effort, and the gas to drive clear out to my place, by golly, I'll load him up with corn, tomatoes, squash, beans, onions, whatever he needs. I've done it before.

But...on the other hand, if I catch some bozo raiding my garden and hen house in the middle of the night...well...then we just might have to have a little "prayer meeting," so to speak, and help the "sinner turn from his evil ways," if you catch my drift. :)
 
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