Dot sight for M&P 10mm

[msp2640]

Gents - I'm primarily a revolver guy, but on occasion like to join the 21st century. Appreciate any insight to the compatibility for those who are currently using a dot sight set up. I gave into the hype for a 10mm M&P and it's on the way to my FFL as I type this (currently own 2 other, older 10mms). I plan to proceed with a green dot sight for it and have somewhat settled on a Holosun HE407C-GR-X2. It will be a range gun, no intentions on carrying it. Anyone have knowledge or use this set up - red or green, will I need an additional mounting plate, does the sight fit the overall size of the M&P slide - or too small or too big, etc. I've read alot about the M&P 10 and potential issues with ammo - but electronic sights are a new world to me. Thanks, Bill

 

[Gman556]

That holosun will serve you fine and some people prefer green over red because they say they can see the green better against different contrasted areas.

Your M&P will come with a set of plates that will fit quite a few different footprints of RDS's. They are plastic and a lot of people including myself will not trust them But there are a few members here who have quite a few rounds through them with no issue so far.

The #1 plate will be used with your holosun.

You'll also have to be patient when transitioning to a RDS on your pistol because it because it takes quite a bit of practice to get used to. Especially if you have been shooting with irons your whole life.

You're going to see that dot bouncing around quite a bit But don't let it bother you because your iron sights were doing the same exact thing and It was just not as noticeable.

Once you get proficient with your red dot you are going to wonder why you didn't try this a long time ago.

I can't stress enough that you do have to put in some time to get proficient with an RDS and stubborn at the same time and not give up.

If it's just going to be a range gun and you're not going to be doing anything fancy like running drills or drawing, the dot should be pretty quick to learn.

Edit to add - the site will slightly overhang your slide by just very very little, but it won't cause any issues with handling or racking the slide.

If you want something lower profile look at the 407 or 507K models.

 

[Gun Geezer]

Welcome to the Dot World. As far as dot color, pick the one you like the best because they both work.

As GMAN noted, don't get overconcerned with the movement of the dot. "Embrace the Wobble" as stated by trainer Jeff Fisher. As long as the dot is in the "general location" of where you want to hit and, you execute all of the proper fundamentals of shooting, you will hit your target. You'll need to resist the urge to jerk the trigger when the dot passes "exactly" over your intended point of impact (I did this the first time I used a dot). If you haven't already done so, I would recommend checking out Sage Dynamics YouTube videos about using dot sights.

Enjoy your new dot and remember, "embrace the wobble" because the only person who can keep the dot perfectly still is no longer alive. I hope my and your dots wobble for a long time.

 

[msp2640]

Thanks for the info. We don't have many, if any well stocked stores around here, so it's difficult to see the sights in person, let alone mounted on the handgun. Internet helps with some info, but I'd prefer to get first hand knowledge here. Thanks again, Bill

 

[BenU]

I highly recommend c&h for a mounting plate. The plastic mounting plate didn't work out for me.

The red dot sight instantly improved my shooting. I will wager you'll never regret adding the sight.

 

[msp2640]

BenU, Thanks for that info. I found their website. I knew of the included plastic plates and have read about sticky plate screws from the factory. Sounds like good insurance. Thanks, Bill

 

[Racer X]

sad that S&W cheaped out on the mounting plates. Glock MOS models ship with a set of steel ones, and even to buy a factory set is about $20.

 

[WVDeere]

I had the 407c fly off with the plastic factory plate. So far so good with the C&H. If this was available when I bought mine this is what I would have gone with. No plate required.

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[Tom S.]

One note on red dots that effect some folks. If you have an astigmatism the 'dot' may look more like a fuzzy red blob. In some cases, it can be mitigated with corrective lenses but not always. Another work around is to lower the brightness until you can just barely see the dot, but this can make it harder to find. The sight is still useful, but some do not like the lack of a clear round dot.

Oddly enough (I don't understand the science) this is only an issue with the reflective red/green dots. Sights with lit reticles do not cause this effect. Unfortunately, I don't know of any handgun sights out there that use a lit reticle outside of scopes or scope type tubes.

 

[Gman556]

One note on red dots that effect some folks. If you have an astigmatism the 'dot' may look more like a fuzzy red blob. In some cases, it can be mitigated with corrective lenses but not always. Another work around is to lower the brightness until you can just barely see the dot, but this can make it harder to find. The sight is still useful, but some do not like the lack of a clear round dot.

Oddly enough (I don't understand the science) this is only an issue with the reflective red/green dots. Sights with lit reticles do not cause this effect. Unfortunately, I don't know of any handgun sights out there that use a lit reticle outside of scopes or scope type tubes.

With my astigmatism even some lit reticles do not look perfectly round without my prescription in.

Fortunately for me the dot doesn't bloom like a cluster of grapes or anything but just looks like a fuzzy dot So I can actually use my pistol dot without my glasses on if need be.

 

[SoCalDep]

S&W never should have gone away from their metal plates. They work great. That said, we’ve had a lot of success with plastic plates mounted correctly...

... on 9mm pistols.

I’d probably go metal with a 10mm. I want one (a 10mm) bad, and I’ll go find a factory metal plate for it. In fact, if I have to, I’ll take a factory metal off one of my other 9mm M&Ps and trade it for the metal. Mounted right I’ll have confidence in both.