Endfloat shims?

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Hi Guys,
I have just had a customer send me a photo of his "new" 686 which he had decided for some reason to clean the inside of the cylinder (where the yoke barrel fits) with a bore brush.
Out came two end-float shims!!
It cannot be that the factory would be fitting shims?
Any idea?
 
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It is extremely unlikely that S&W would install end-shake shims at the factory. If the yoke did not meet correct dimensional standards it would have been scrapped and a correct yoke used.

Is the gun really new, still had the warranty card and in the original box and sold by a licensed dealer as "new", or was it simply "new to current owner" and really a used gun?
 
Customer claims it is "new",
It still had the warranty card and in the original box and sold by a licensed dealer as "new".
I will need to check with the dealer to see if it was really new.

But I am right to say the factory would not use shims to correct end-shake?
They certainly didn't when I went to the academy in 1986
 
Without the gun in our hands to inspect, no one here truly knows wether or not this gun is really new and unfired (except of course for the normal test shots - usually in every other charge hole). I'm sure there are and will be guns (as well as many other goods sold) that were represented as new but are not in actuality. While I doubt the factory would insert shims to fix end-shake, we don't actually know who put them in. It could have been the Dealers GS that simply figured he'd throw a shim or two in rather than go through the hassle of sending the gun back to the factory. Maybe the end-shake was picked up prior to sale & maybe it wasn't. Maybe another customer looking at said gun picked up on it and someone just put a few shims in to be able to quickly sell the product. We will never know. I do know one thing, sometimes even factory's "fix" things the easy way but again, we can't say that for sure as none here truly know.

That said, if the new owner objects to owning a "new" gun that has already been repaired (and not disclosed), he should ask for his money back. Unfortunately, the warranty might have been voided by disassembling the cylinder but I am not an attorney. Maybe the new owner himself inserted the shims - we simply don't know. If I bought what I believed to be a new gun (or anything else for that mater) and it had been repaired and undisclosed, I'd be mad & upset and demand my money back.

The warranty card being blank and still in the box means nothing! I have many guns that are 30,40 50+ years old that I have shot many many times and the warranty card is still in the box and not filled out!
 
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