Excuse my ignorance - flash suppressor

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Is the stock flash suppressor on my 15-22 there for any purpose beyond decorative? I haven't done any nighttime shooting and don't intend to, plus the inanimate targets I shoot at don't shoot back, so if they see me, no biggie!

I've fired a few rounds with the flash suppressor detached and haven't noticed any difference in anything. I'm thinking of just stashing the flash suppressor in my parts box and putting a thread protector on the muzzle of the barrel.

Or am I making a big mistake here? :confused:
 
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All it really is is a thread protector, so why replace with another thread protector? They sell plenty of these with no threads, and obviously no flash suppressor, so it is not necessary & removing it would not be a mistake... as long as you protect the threads.
 
Some Barrels Need the Flash Suppressor to make the barrel the full 16 inches to be legal. so it depends on the rifle and your application. And your local laws as well. :)
 
All it really is is a thread protector, so why replace with another thread protector? They sell plenty of these with no threads, and obviously no flash suppressor, so it is not necessary & removing it would not be any mistake... as long as you protect the threads.

Don't forget it's also a muzzle/crown protector.

Not that we are crawling through the mud...
 
22LR does not need a flash suppressor.
The 15-22 was intended as an AR15-pattern range toy/small game rifle. Some models include an A1 flash suppressor as an aesthetic addition to make its appearance more closely match a standard AR15. If you prefer to remove the flash hider and replace it with a thread protector, you will likely not notice any difference.
NOTE - please read up on the various threads about safely securing your 15-22's barrel prior to applying any torque. You can easily damage your polymer upper receiver if you treat it like an actual AR15 when removing or replacing a muzzle device.
 
Some Barrels Need the Flash Suppressor to make the barrel the full 16 inches to be legal. so it depends on the rifle and your application. And your local laws as well. :)

The muzzle device has to be welded / pinned to the barrel for it to be included as part of the barrel length. The MD on the 15-22 is not pinned/ welded so it does not add to the barrel length.

Also, 'legal' is a misnomer.. I'm being pedantic here, but it is legal in many states, and certainly at the federal level, to own rifles with short barrels.. It just requires additional paperwork and $200.

22LR does not need a flash ysuppressor.
The 15-22 was intended as an AR15-pattern range toy/small game rifle

Please do not refer to any firearm as a toy. More people are killed with a 22 than any other caliber iirc...
 
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Just an FYI, so as to help dispel rumors, the flash hiders main function is not to hide you from others. The flash hiders is to allow the shooter to not have his vision washed out at night by the muzzle flash. Once you think about it, it actually makes sense, because if you shoot once and lose your night vision it pretty much makes your rifle a bolt action or a spray and pray until you can see again.

As for keep it or stow it, that is really personal preference. I think the gun looks odd without it, but then I like the look of AR's so to each his own.
 
Indeed, I see the "flash suppressor" as a thread protector. I have a "silencer" suppressor that I switch from my pistol to the 15-22, but I leave the spacer I got with the silencer on the rifle, since the pistol doesn't need it. I have been screwing the flash suppressor on and off as necessary, and I suppose I will continue doing that.

I am thinking of removing the 10" four sided Picitinny rail, though, and replacing it with a 10" long, light, think handguard with no Picitinny rails. I have a good scope mounted on the rail that's on the top of the upper, and that's enough for me. I'm not a "tactical" kind of guy. I know I need the kit to mount the handguard...any suggestions for handguards?
 
I know I need the kit to mount the handguard...any suggestions for handguards?

Once you get the Tacticool barrel nut adapter, the whole world of AR handguards opens up to you.

I'm a fan of the Evolution from Rainier, as seen in the pic below. Might be too tactical for you but it is very light.

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Thanks, Tacticool22, but the photos are too small for me to see properly.
 
Please do not refer to any firearm as a toy. More people are killed with a 22 than any other caliber iirc...

The Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22 is a range toy/small game rifle.
Defined as per the third definition here.

something that serves for or as if for diversion, rather than for serious practical use.

Similarly, I would call a jet ski, or a Nissan GTR, or a dirt bike a toy. None of which typically serve a serious practical use, all of which can kill you if not treated with the proper respect.
As grown adults, the assumption is we all treat all potentially dangerous objects with the proper respect at all times and do not require warning labels or politically correct terms to remind us to do so.
 
The Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22 is a range toy/small game rifle.
Defined as per the third definition here.

something that serves for or as if for diversion, rather than for serious practical use.

Similarly, I would call a jet ski, or a Nissan GTR, or a dirt bike a toy. None of which typically serve a serious practical use, all of which can kill you if not treated with the proper respect.
As grown adults, the assumption is we all treat all potentially dangerous objects with the proper respect at all times and do not require warning labels or politically correct terms to remind us to do so.

You we certainly free to your opinion, as am I. I am not trying to be politically correct or attach warning labels to every conceivable item, nor trying to bubble wrap people so they cannot hurt themselves.

In my state (va) i cannot hunt with a .223 caliber rifle. As a civilian then, I could argue that my ar15 is, as you put it, a range toy as it only goes to the range, and it serves no practical purpose.

Furthermore,while it is only my opinion, I feel that if you denigrate ANY firearm by calling it a toy, and referring to a dictionary definition of something that serves no practical purpose, then I fear it would be used by those in politics as fodder to place more restrictions on it. After all, if it serves no practical purpose, then you don't need it, regardless of what the second amendment says. Maybe that's a bit of a tinfoil hat, but under the circumstances, I'd rather err on the conservative side of the fence on 2A... After all, in some states, the 15-22 is considered an assault rifle (I disagree with this notion, but alas, I am neither a politician nor a lawyer). Much like my ar15, I doubt anyone would consider anything classified as an 'assault rifle' a 'toy' because it 'has no useful purpose'.

One would hope that, as adults, common sense would prevail and no firearm would ever be unintentionally wielded or used in a dangerous/deadly manner, but I can assure you that it has, and will continue to do so. I would love to live in a world and society where we weren't surrounded by people doing stupid things. Until that occurs, however, your assumption of a general 'adult common sense' is, IMHO, flawed, and some people would do better if they were bubble-wrapped.

Suffice it to say, you won't sway me, nor I you. Hopefully we can agree at the 15-22 is a kick *** firearm that doesn't require a flash suppressor (getting back on topic), but looks really cool with it on, even if it doesn't serve a particularly useful purpose (other than crown/thread protection).

Cheers!
 
I see the M&P 15-22 as a range plinking rifle that is a hoot to shoot. I think I would view the flash suppressor as a protector of the barrel crown and a add to make it look like an AR 15.
 
Can't hunt with a .223/5.56? Wow, that's restrictive.
Time to change politicians and the laws.

That could be said about a lot of laws and politicians at the federal, state and local level.... I'm sure Oregon has one or two draconian laws...

VA law says hunting of bear and deer must use .23 caliber or larger rifle. However, other wild animals have no such restriction. We also can't hunt on Sundays with a few exceptions... But, you can use a 22 to dispatch trapped wild game... Btw, that's one of the reasons I own a 300 blackout....

But at least we are allowed to own rifles with pistol grips, threaded muzzles, collapsible stocks and of course, large capacity magazines... Along with sbrs, suppressors and MGs...

Cheers....
 
Indeed, I see the "flash suppressor" as a thread protector. I have a "silencer" suppressor that I switch from my pistol to the 15-22, but I leave the spacer I got with the silencer on the rifle, since the pistol doesn't need it. I have been screwing the flash suppressor on and off as necessary, and I suppose I will continue doing that.

I am thinking of removing the 10" four sided Picitinny rail, though, and replacing it with a 10" long, light, think handguard with no Picitinny rails. I have a good scope mounted on the rail that's on the top of the upper, and that's enough for me. I'm not a "tactical" kind of guy. I know I need the kit to mount the handguard...any suggestions for handguards?
If you really want light you want Carbon Fiber although most of them are much more expensive that metal ones. AP Custom is the cheapest and pretty good too. I have one on my 3-gun AR and it takes plenty of punishment. It replaced a Samson Evolution one I have on there and it took a bunch of weight off.
 
Once you get the Tacticool barrel nut adapter, the whole world of AR handguards opens up to you.

I'm a fan of the Evolution from Rainier, as seen in the pic below. Might be too tactical for you but it is very light.

both-guns.jpg
Ranier is not the maker of the Evolution, Samson is. Ranier just sells it and this version only they can sell (maybe they designed it but who knows). Takes the same rail sections as the older Evolution rail made by Samson and sold by both of them.
 
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Ranier is not the maker of the Evolution, Samson is. Ranier just sells it and this version only they can sell (maybe they designed it but who knows). Takes the same rail sections as the older Evolution rail made by Samson and sold by both of them.

Yep, I'm aware of that. If you want the attachments, you get them from Samson. I just prefer the Rainier version of the Evolution... especially the older version prior to going keymod. Attachment system is the same on all.
 
No useful purpose. Decorative only. I replaced mine with a slip-on barrel shroud, technically removing any flash suppressor altogether.

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Not much more I can do to it. Swapping the handguard was definitely worth it.
 
No useful purpose. Decorative only. I replaced mine with a slip-on barrel shroud, technically removing any flash suppressor altogether.

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Not much more I can do to it. Swapping the handguard was definitely worth it.


Looks good. Real nice hand guard on there.
Wouldn't that be a screw on shroud since you have a threaded barrel?
 
A slip on barrel shroud would have to screw on. If not there would be no means to secure it to the barrel.

I don't think there is another kind of slip on for the 15-22.
 
The flash suppressor may not be useful but I sure do think it makes the 15-22 look cooler than without it and that's why I bought mine with one instead of without one. JMHO.
 
A slip on barrel shroud would have to screw on. If not there would be no means to secure it to the barrel.

I don't think there is another kind of slip on for the 15-22.

A slip on barrel shroud simply slips on the non-threaded (part of the ) barrel and is held in place with a set screw.
We make them for just about any size barrel made.

A screw on barrel shroud screws on the existing threads that would be used for a flash hider or whatever. We make them in any thread needed.
 
Yep, I'm aware of that. If you want the attachments, you get them from Samson. I just prefer the Rainier version of the Evolution... especially the older version prior to going keymod. Attachment system is the same on all.
I agree I think the Ranier only version looks better. I banished my 15" Samson EVO handguard to my 6.8mm DMR rifle and its 20" barrel.
 

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