Extra storage in safe

[ill_noiz]

If the black rifle disease has taken over your gun safe or cabinet this might help. At first my shelf was used to hold my hand guns, with the main section for a little ammo and bag. But now its plagued with riffle ammo. The only solution i came up with was to get the hand guns on the door. I search online and found various on the door solutions but they started getting pricey or didn't fit my little cabinet. So i had to make my own. Everything i used i already had at home but i priced them for reference.

Materials:
Velcro roll from wally's $4
Swatch of vinyl @ Jo-ann fabrics $2

If you don't have a carpet lined door i used the following:
3/8 in peg board $4(might get lucky and find scrap from hardware store like i did and pay .50)
Carpet from jo-ann, $6/yd
Adhesive spray at jo-ann, $3

If you want to save money sign up for jo-ann frabics email via the web and you'll get a 40-60% of coupon sent every week.

The carpet to the peg board is pretty self explanatory. Spray adhesive to pegboard, or other wood you might have, and carpet. Let adhesive get tacky before joining the 2 by waiting 90-120 secs before attaching. Use razor blade to cut carpet to fit.

For the straps i took a few pics when i purchased a couple handguns and need more.

Cut a piece of velcro that will wrap around & over lap hand grip.

Attach that piece of velcro to the back of the vinyl, and cut it out.(tip: heat up sticky side before attaching it to the vinyl with lighter)

Cut a piece of the felt side of velcro. Attach it to the vinyl side at the end

Do the same thing for the barrel and you should have this

I used standard velcro and it holds perfect.

Let me know what you guys think

Put a 10lb weight to the velcro and it didn't budge. Even swung it and it held perfect. Doubt i get a 10lb pistol

 

[Morfeus]

That is pretty ingenious. I like it.

 

[ill_noiz]

That is pretty ingenious. I like it.

Thanks. I figured we all could use more room for ammo storage. Never know when those zombies will pop up, lol.

 

[Rustpot]

Why lock up the ammo?

 

[scootle]

Why lock up the ammo?

kids maybe?

i know some people use their lockbox to stash ammo since they try to humdity-control it better than anywhere else in the house.

 

[Rustpot]

kids maybe?

i know some people use their lockbox to stash ammo since they try to humdity-control it better than anywhere else in the house.

Worrying about kids getting into ammo is like worrying about kids having sex by finding a condom in your bedside table. And ammo isn't as humidity sensitive as blued steel (doesn't look like a long-term stockpile either).

I don't mean to derail the thread, I realize people want to keep ammo secure. It just seems like instead of rigging up a velcro system to hang $500 pistols on the door it would make more sense to move the boxes of ammo. Just wondering why he felt the ammo needed to be locked up.

 

[scootle]

Worrying about kids getting into ammo is like worrying about kids having sex by finding a condom in your bedside table. And ammo isn't as humidity sensitive as blued steel (doesn't look like a long-term stockpile either).

well i presumed "little" kids who might think the ammo is tasty candy... plus it *is* lead, so letting kids handle bullets -- esp kids who don't wash their hands... not so good.

but like you said... we're derailing!

my advice... get a bigger safe... then you'll just need more guns to fill it up!

me, i got a small safe so i can preserve my piggy bank...

 

[Rustpot]

well i presumed "little" kids who might think the ammo is tasty candy... plus it *is* lead, so letting kids handle bullets -- esp kids who don't wash their hands... not so good.

but like you said... we're derailing!

my advice... get a bigger safe... then you'll just need more guns to fill it up!

The same kids who think the anti-freeze is Kool-Aid? If you can keep kids out of chemicals you can keep them out of ammo caches.

But yeah, looking back at the OP's pics it looks like the bottom of the safe is awfully empty with only one rifle in there, plenty of room for ammo!

I mean the velcro straps are a good idea, I would just be leery of strapping my preciouses to a door than can be slammed shut. I can just picture the shoe sorter my mom kept on the laundry room door when I was a kid that would drop a few shoes if it wasn't closed gently.

 

[mtime7]

you need a bigger safe.. Mine has 3/16 bungie cord in a cross pattern that holds 4 pistols on the door.. it looks really good

and ammo goes in ammo cans, or a locked cabinet..

 

[chuck s]

-- Chuck

 

[srgvaz]

It looks like you really needed the extra space. Does the gun hit the shelf when you close the door?

 

[infamous209]

love the idea and if it works for you thats all that matters! maybe if you other guys are worried you could run some stitching thru the velcro/carpet and thru the holes of the peg board, this will help hold the velcro on in case for some crazy reason you slam the door on your safe with more gun power than fort knox

 

[ill_noiz]

Why lock up the ammo?

Yes it do have kids so that why everything has to get locked up. To a 1yr old everything is food. And with my 3 year old, who know what she'll do next.

 

[ill_noiz]

But yeah, looking back at the OP's pics it looks like the bottom of the safe is awfully empty with only one rifle in there, plenty of room for ammo!

I mean the velcro straps are a good idea, I would just be leery of strapping my preciouses to a door than can be slammed shut. I can just picture the shoe sorter my mom kept on the laundry room door when I was a kid that would drop a few shoes if it wasn't closed gently.[/QUOTE]

Actually i didn't want the one rifle in the pic either, no need to show everything

when i was doing this the first time my 3-yr old ran by and slammed the door with my 357 magnum attached and it did not move. That was enough of a test for me.

 

[ill_noiz]

It looks like you really needed the extra space. Does the gun hit the shelf when you close the door?

I can't stock pile the way i would like but it is enough to make sure when i feel like a last minute range session i don't have to worry about ammo.

There are no clearance issues at all.

 

[ill_noiz]

love the idea and if it works for you thats all that matters! maybe if you other guys are worried you could run some stitching thru the velcro/carpet and thru the holes of the peg board, this will help hold the velcro on in case for some crazy reason you slam the door on your safe with more gun power than fort knox

I actually considered stitching but after the incident with my 3yr old i was sold. Never realized how strong they are.

But it does work great and i can hold approximately 10 average size pistols. Now that gives me a reason/space for more .

 

[kbm6893]

I got some wooden shelving, cut it to the width of my safe, and added three legs to it the same depth as the shelf. Then I covered it with carpet the same color as the carpet already in the safe, and attached it using a staple gun. Fit it in there and now the guns are 4 inches off the floor, plus I have three compartments under the guns for extra mags. I don't store ammo with my guns. I have two office fire safes, one for pistol ammo and one for long gun ammo. Both are jammed. Well over 1000 rounds of pistol ammo in that one safe, and easily 5000 rounds of .223, shotgun, and .22 ammo in the other. I don't want anyone having access to my ammo.

 

[ill_noiz]

Why not lock up the ammo. It's just as valuable as the guns. Wouldn't be able to do anything with out either. With that much there's more value there than in the guns

 

[Rustpot]

Why not lock up the ammo. It's just as valuable as the guns. Wouldn't be able to do anything with out either. With that much there's more value there than in the guns

Crooks grab the DVD player instead of the 15 movies that are worth just as much. It's easier to pop a lock and grab 15 pounds worth of guns than it is to try and cart away the 10,000 rounds that weigh 200 lbs but is worth as much.

I'm not a very big proponent of safes in the home. A metal cabinet that's secured to the walls and floor is just as safe as a lot of commercial safes that can be pried open very easily. Fire "proof" safes are rated at all of 15 minutes in most cases. In my mind the money is better spent replacing the door frame and door to a secure room.

Not to mention if a thief is in your home and finds a safe he's likely going to go after that before a stack of nylon cases packed in a closet.

How many times on gun forums are people complaining about lack of room in their safes and resorting to storing weapons elsewhere when they've done very little else to deter an intruder from getting into the home and to their collection?

I don't mean to question your parenting skills but if you have no way of keeping ammo from your toddlers inquisitive hands than I hope you've made room for the bleach and lysol in the safe as well.

 

[infamous209]

If i had money for a safe i would buy one and have all the guns and ammo in it, but for now top shelf in closet for ammo and a lil hiding spot i found for the guns. 22 ammo is hella small and with a baby on the way little things like that need to be put up.