Extra storage in safe

Before you "lock up" too much ammo in a gun safe you might want to google ammo storage. General recomendation is that under the right circumstances the safe becomes a IED. Ammo storage should have a vent of some kind in case of explosion. By the way nice ingenuity on the handgun storage. I have been evaluating similar storage "kits" but have always thought they were overpriced.
 
Crooks grab the DVD player instead of the 15 movies that are worth just as much. It's easier to pop a lock and grab 15 pounds worth of guns than it is to try and cart away the 10,000 rounds that weigh 200 lbs but is worth as much.

I'm not a very big proponent of safes in the home. A metal cabinet that's secured to the walls and floor is just as safe as a lot of commercial safes that can be pried open very easily. Fire "proof" safes are rated at all of 15 minutes in most cases. In my mind the money is better spent replacing the door frame and door to a secure room.

Not to mention if a thief is in your home and finds a safe he's likely going to go after that before a stack of nylon cases packed in a closet.

How many times on gun forums are people complaining about lack of room in their safes and resorting to storing weapons elsewhere when they've done very little else to deter an intruder from getting into the home and to their collection?

I don't mean to question your parenting skills but if you have no way of keeping ammo from your toddlers inquisitive hands than I hope you've made room for the bleach and lysol in the safe as well.

Must not be from Chicago? They are breaking in and stealing game systems and the games, along with the lcd's off the wall. So i figured i'd just slow them down by bolting the cabinet to the studs inside a closet and the concrete slab.

I'm sure all "good parents" lock up the bleach and other toxic items. I don't think there's a drawer with out a lock
 
Before you "lock up" too much ammo in a gun safe you might want to google ammo storage. General recomendation is that under the right circumstances the safe becomes a IED. Ammo storage should have a vent of some kind in case of explosion. By the way nice ingenuity on the handgun storage. I have been evaluating similar storage "kits" but have always thought they were overpriced.

I will have to look into that. I saw similar "kits" as well but didn't think they are worth the price either. This works perfect for me.
 
Most home robberies are snatch and grab jobs. Meaning, the thieves are in and out in less than 10 minutes. Most are not going to spend the time or effort to try and pry open a safe or remove it from the home. Think about it. Even if they could get it out (which would take some considerable time and prep) do you think they want to be seen by your neighbors loading it into the back of their van or truck?

Most quality safes (liberty, cannon, ect.) have min 30 minutes for a fire rating. Unless you live in BFE you should be ok. Most of us will have the FD show up long before the room the safe is in reaches those kinds of temps to destroy whatever is inside.

Quality safes have a great deal of structural integrity. With internal hinges and multiple locking bolts on 1 – 4 sides an ill prepared thief will take hours trying to get into most quality safes. That's provided he can find the right tools. Like I stated before most won't mess with it. Too much effort, time, and noise.

Regarding the locking up of ammo, I do it too. My first reason is safety. In the event I do have a fire my safe is the best place for it because of the 1 hour fire rating. Second in the event a round does go off it will have to penetrate the ammo can and steel safe to become a threat to anyone. Third, I don't want any kids at my house to snatch a bullet and take it to school to show their friends. That's serious trouble for me and them. BTW, all my dangerous stuff is locked up too. ie, explosives, drain cleaners, paints, knives, ect.

In conclusion here is my take on safes. If you own multiple guns you should own one. By not having one you are making yourself more vulnerable to theft and potentially providing the far left more ammo (no pun intended) to push gun control. Where do you think criminals get their guns? By breaking into homes and stealing them. You can never fully protect your gun collection however you can make it so difficult that no one will ever want to attempt to steal it. Start small and work up to a more secure storage system as your collection grows. If you have the means hide the safe. The best way to store your guns or any valuables for that matter is to hide them. Out of sight is out of mind.

BTW, dig the inventiveness of the velcro. I had to do the same thing but chose to secure holsters to the inside of the door with screws covered in felt. Works well for now.
 
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A quality safe is a necessity.

I replaced my decorative door cover with a sheet of black peg board from the local hardware store adding
storage for an additional 19 handguns.

Be forwarned you must have enough weight in the safe to counterbalance the added weight of the door and guns.
 
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Hey guys, this is the 15-22 Forum. The threads are supposed to be related to the 15-22. Can we have some pics of a 15-22 in a safe? Something... so I don't have to click the Thread Delete button. :p
 
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