For concealed carry S&W 60 over Sig 365. Why?
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There's another advantage to a revolver: if a round fails to fire (rare but happens) another trigger pull clears it while a pistol is tap & rack, much slower. OTOH a pistol has the advantage of faster reload in the case of multiple assailants (again, rare but happens). I have & carry both 60 & 365 since they operate exactly the same, point & mash the bang switch. The times I needed a gun a revolver worked just fine (don't ask). pick what you like & practice & can hit consistently - only solid hits count.
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This thread is boring, but it's better than the dead jogger.
I will stick with my Sig P226.
falrifles
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When we walk out the door we each have our own decision / choice as to what type or caliber of weapon we will carry. I've carried a gun as a LEO since 1976 -2018 every day. I still carry under the LEOSA. Still employed as a civilian with the PD. Having said this, I've carried revolvers from 1976-1992. Semi-autos from 1992 to present. I'm a big fan of the model 60. I carried one for many years as a back up gun and for off duty. But, after the switch to semi automatics took place, I take advantage of their extra capacity to enhance survival. You can't say you will only need 2-3 shots to survive your encounter. You may need 8-10 with a reload. Even as a citizen.
We buried a retired police sergeant in St Louis a few years ago, who after being retired for 11 years, got in to a shoot out with two car jackers armed with a 9mm pistol, as he was pulling up in front of a relative's home to do some babysitting. Ralph Harper had a five shot chief special. The 15 year old carjacker killed Harper in front of his loving wife. The kid who killed Harper was 15 years old. Look it up. In St Louis Mo.
So as you make your decision as to what you will carry, realize that you cannot control all the variables that you may encounter. Often times wolves travel in a group of two or more.
We all love J frame Smith & Wessons, however around 1987 a revolution in handguns took place that changed the way police officers have armed themselves. To do otherwise would mean that you could be outgunned.
Criminals have changed what they are armed with since 1987 as well. They like to carry what cops carry. One of the most common pistols seized from criminals today are Glock pistols.
I respect your choice to carry a model 60. I can't bring myself to limit my survivability, based on what I've seen over my 40 years in police work. I love revolvers. That's why we are all here.
We buried a retired police sergeant in St Louis a few years ago, who after being retired for 11 years, got in to a shoot out with two car jackers armed with a 9mm pistol, as he was pulling up in front of a relative's home to do some babysitting. Ralph Harper had a five shot chief special. The 15 year old carjacker killed Harper in front of his loving wife. The kid who killed Harper was 15 years old. Look it up. In St Louis Mo.
So as you make your decision as to what you will carry, realize that you cannot control all the variables that you may encounter. Often times wolves travel in a group of two or more.
We all love J frame Smith & Wessons, however around 1987 a revolution in handguns took place that changed the way police officers have armed themselves. To do otherwise would mean that you could be outgunned.
Criminals have changed what they are armed with since 1987 as well. They like to carry what cops carry. One of the most common pistols seized from criminals today are Glock pistols.
I respect your choice to carry a model 60. I can't bring myself to limit my survivability, based on what I've seen over my 40 years in police work. I love revolvers. That's why we are all here.
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I carried a J frame as a backup/off duty gun for years. Since retirement, I carried a 940 for several years. I bought a P365 and have never looked back. For me, carrying a 940, it was the same caliber with over twice the capacity and even being an "old revolver guy," the Sig carries better.
I've posted these photos before, but they can be convincing.
I've posted these photos before, but they can be convincing.
First of all I want to thank each of who participated in this thread.
My apologies for writing a lot. There was no need for sarcasm.
I have enjoyed each of your opinions coincidences and learned from your discrepancies.
I will put it this way, I have bought all the best that money can buy to defend myself. And it's like a never ending race, something new always comes out that promises wonders.
I wondered if the topic I wrote was the correct attitude and the result, which summoned us in this thread.
Simply put, the S&W 60 works for me.
I am already a veteran, my dear deceased father, always carried a Smith & Wesson 5-bolt model 10 from 1930. Only once did he have to face a shooting and it was enough with a shot from my dad to solve it.
I have a thought, debatable as all thoughts, I prefer to carry different weapons according to the occasion and not a multi-occasion. I know how everything is debatable.
Times have changed I know. Crime, as one forista said, uses Glock and most go from two to three criminals to do their misdeeds.
That is, the way things are, on the street, or we are killed by crime or the Coronavirus.
While all of this is true, I still think that the marksman's ability is more important than the weapon itself, but I accept that everything counts.
As for my recommendation to rotate the magazines and not keep them full for long periods, it is a fact and a common practice in the military routine of weapon maintenance.
I accept that doing it every 15 days is a personal decision and it is surely exaggerated, I usually do it when it comes to security.
Personally, I usually put one less ammunition in the magazine when I am going to leave it loaded for a long time, so as not to demand it. But I repeat it is my decision, it does not have to be yours.
But believe me, if it is plausible with failures, if you leave a magazine loaded for a long period, the springs usually come to an end.
This failure is more frequent in low quality magazines.
Of course, in quality weapons, this failure is minimized a lot, and it may never happen to you. It is also a good practice to ensure reliability of your pistol, follow the recommendation.
Just my 2 cents.
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My apologies for writing a lot. There was no need for sarcasm.
I have enjoyed each of your opinions coincidences and learned from your discrepancies.
I will put it this way, I have bought all the best that money can buy to defend myself. And it's like a never ending race, something new always comes out that promises wonders.
I wondered if the topic I wrote was the correct attitude and the result, which summoned us in this thread.
Simply put, the S&W 60 works for me.
I am already a veteran, my dear deceased father, always carried a Smith & Wesson 5-bolt model 10 from 1930. Only once did he have to face a shooting and it was enough with a shot from my dad to solve it.
I have a thought, debatable as all thoughts, I prefer to carry different weapons according to the occasion and not a multi-occasion. I know how everything is debatable.
Times have changed I know. Crime, as one forista said, uses Glock and most go from two to three criminals to do their misdeeds.
That is, the way things are, on the street, or we are killed by crime or the Coronavirus.
While all of this is true, I still think that the marksman's ability is more important than the weapon itself, but I accept that everything counts.
As for my recommendation to rotate the magazines and not keep them full for long periods, it is a fact and a common practice in the military routine of weapon maintenance.
I accept that doing it every 15 days is a personal decision and it is surely exaggerated, I usually do it when it comes to security.
Personally, I usually put one less ammunition in the magazine when I am going to leave it loaded for a long time, so as not to demand it. But I repeat it is my decision, it does not have to be yours.
But believe me, if it is plausible with failures, if you leave a magazine loaded for a long period, the springs usually come to an end.
This failure is more frequent in low quality magazines.
Of course, in quality weapons, this failure is minimized a lot, and it may never happen to you. It is also a good practice to ensure reliability of your pistol, follow the recommendation.
Just my 2 cents.
Health
Luck !
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Con el deseo que las disfruten les comparto mis reinas
I present to you my queens and my alternation, depending on where I go with hidden carrying.
My most frequent S&W 60
A clarification that perhaps was not understood, I think that when you have the responsibility of carrying a weapon, it is as important to know when you should take your weapon out of its holster as when you should leave your weapon in its holster still.
Just to think about it.
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I present to you my queens and my alternation, depending on where I go with hidden carrying.
My most frequent S&W 60
A clarification that perhaps was not understood, I think that when you have the responsibility of carrying a weapon, it is as important to know when you should take your weapon out of its holster as when you should leave your weapon in its holster still.
Just to think about it.
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pera Glad your pleased with your snubby . I retired mine some 18 to 20 years ago . I hate it when some guy tells me what the FBI says as that changes as needed and if 5 shoots really was enough they would not need the high cap pistol they carry now . Beside a 357mag or 38+P+ what ever that is has rather limited energy and velocity when fired from a short barrel . At least be smart enough to roll your 38+P+ in 357mag brass , so your not having to deal with crud build up in the chamber !! . Oh yea 38sp +P+ is what a mild 357mag Really mild from a 2" barrel . Load 357mag brass mild makes way more sense .
So you think a revolver is sooo dependable ??
Wait till you have a primer back out the tiniest bit when fired . That little snubby is just a rock at that point . No tap rap bang drill will help . Force and you bend the crane and turn it into a paper weight .
Carry what you comfortable with , just don't try to blow smoke up anyones rear end over how great your snubby is as most of use have been there decades ago .
OH , how about you showing a video of your shooting skills with 5 rounds in a 2" group at 15 yards with 1 second per shot splits .
Wow so much fluff.
So you think a revolver is sooo dependable ??
Wait till you have a primer back out the tiniest bit when fired . That little snubby is just a rock at that point . No tap rap bang drill will help . Force and you bend the crane and turn it into a paper weight .
Carry what you comfortable with , just don't try to blow smoke up anyones rear end over how great your snubby is as most of use have been there decades ago .
OH , how about you showing a video of your shooting skills with 5 rounds in a 2" group at 15 yards with 1 second per shot splits .
Wow so much fluff.
Jim1392
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I carried a 60 as a backup and off duty for years and felt very comfortable with it. But times have changed as far as I'm concerned. The wolves very seldom are alone and seem to run in packs of at least two. I'm very happy these days either carrying my Shield 9 with the 8 round mag and the 7 round in my weak side pocket. Or more so lately a 365 with an extra 12 round magazine.
Threads like this make me wonder if to OP's really sincere, or just trying to rattle as many cages as possible. If it's the former, and a revolver's his choice, carry on. If it's the latter, he succeeded, big time.
The weight difference between a steel J frame (heavier) and a 12 rd P365 is negligible.
Yeah, I know, who needs more than five?
Yeah, I know, who needs more than five?
falrifles
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Pera:
The truth be told, my model 60 is long gone. So is my 642. I've considered buying a 640. I ended up with an LCR .38 a couple years ago, gifted from an elderly woman that I trained to shoot. I haven't carried it. It sits in the back of my safe. Might be good to have in my jacket pocket while pheasant hunting in the fall.
I don't carry a Sig 365 at all. My EDC is a Glock 43 with a Vickers magazine extension. If I'm going somewhere that I feel the need for more firepower, I pack my Glock 19 gen 3. I've carried that pistol since 1998. I always carry a spare magazine.
Be safe.
The truth be told, my model 60 is long gone. So is my 642. I've considered buying a 640. I ended up with an LCR .38 a couple years ago, gifted from an elderly woman that I trained to shoot. I haven't carried it. It sits in the back of my safe. Might be good to have in my jacket pocket while pheasant hunting in the fall.
I don't carry a Sig 365 at all. My EDC is a Glock 43 with a Vickers magazine extension. If I'm going somewhere that I feel the need for more firepower, I pack my Glock 19 gen 3. I've carried that pistol since 1998. I always carry a spare magazine.
Be safe.
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Highhawk1948
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I do like my 3 inch barreled model 60. It has a full grip and recoil is very manageable.
snowman.45
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I have at least as many revolvers as I do semi-autos, with 4 of the revolvers being J-frames. As you might guess, I feel quite comfortable with them and carry them often. However, there are advantages to the small 9mm semis, as well. Circumstances and conditions often dictate what I carry. Might add, there are a number of fallacies in the OP's post, most of which have already been addressed.
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