Frog Lubed my Shield tonight

[richeyo2]

I have 980 rounds through my M&P 45 and have used Frog Lube since day one. If I remember, I'll take pics tonight and post them here. You can then judge for yourself. If you want, I'll put another 100 rounds through it before I take the pics just to be sure I'm over 1,000 rounds. Purely for scientific research.

While I haven't used any other lube, don't think for a moment that the gun doesn't get cared for. I re-apply the Frog Lube when I clean the gun which is usually after a trip to the range. I have also intentionally gone 500 rounds without re-applying lube. This was to help pin point an issue I was having.

My problem wasn't due to the lack of cleaning. The gun worked fine even without cleaning it for 500 rounds. Trust me, it was painful allowing the gun to be dirty all that time. The M&P has proven to be a very robust gun.

Thanks I'd like to see some pics, we can round the 980 up, close enough! I'll keep checking back. I appreciate it.

 

[cemeb4dk]

Just did my first application to my m&p 40 and my 15-2. Used hair dryer and applied liberally. Then wiped off. Interested to see how lubricated it gets when firing.

 

[Riverkilt]

Just got some for the first time yesterday. Frog Lube's a couple of sticky metal zippers on jackets and they "zip" well now. Tonight treated an old Winchester 69A .22 that I bought in Wyoming in 1962...looks great.

I bought the stuff because it's super sandy where I live in the high desert and the reports on how well it handles sand over in the sandbox made it seem like the right thing for around here too. Our local range is all sand and the guns and mags pick it up easy - especially when the sand is wind blown. Maybe get a pistol treated tomorrow and try it at the range.

 

[gpetrucci85]

Love the stuff. I use it on all of mine and my wife's guns. Works great on our pistols, and rifles and shotguns. My M&P 15 Sport especially loves it.

 

[Mellow]

Bought and used it with great hope b/c the smell was wife friendly. It works week but it seemed my 1911s heated up more after a few hundred rounds in my range sessions. I know my "experiment" isn't scientific but to me increased heat means increased friction si I went back to WS. My 1911s seem to run for longer sessions without the heat buildup.

I'd be interested in hearing about your extended range sessions of at least 300 plus rounds within an hour or so with tighter guns. Heck, I can run my Glocks without lube and they don't seem to care. Perhaps less contact between looser tolerance surfaces??

 

[walkin' trails]

I started using it about a month or so ago. I treated several guns, including my M&P 45, some revolvers, my kids' 10/22s, and my brand new Rock River Arms LAR-15.

I've only put a little over 100 rounds thru the 45 after FrogLube, but I noticed the feed ramp would wipe clean rather than having to scrub it with a brush. I also noticed today that the stuff does get down into the firing pin channel and looked like it could gum it up down the road.

The 10/22s ran like a charm even though I haven't cleaned them. Haven't fired the revolvers yet (both blue and stainless).

I use a brush and a hair dryer to prep the metal, brush on the paste, let it dry, and wipe it off. I do it twice if the gun has been fired and I need to get the crud off.

Now for the new RRA LAR-15. I degreased and put on the FrogLube as per their directions. I finally got to shoot this carbine yesterday, using factory Federal and Winchester soft point and hollow point ammo in 55, 60, and 62 grain configurations. I had no malfunction, and only one issue with one magazine where it appeared that the bolt did not strip a round from the magazine. It only did it once. I ran almost 300 rounds through this carbine and it never missed a lick. This is the second RRA I've broken in, and the first one was about 99.99999 % reliable and the only issues I'd had with it were caused by worn out magazines or bad factory ammo. I expected the same out of this new one, and thusfar am not disappointed.

The temperature at the range in the morning was around 10 degrees. My carbine was exposed to the cold but did not seem adversly effected. The FrogLube did not seem to stiffin noticably in below freezing temperatures, even when leaving the gun exposed to the cold air while stopping to load mags and change targets. It did cool down pretty fast at the low temp.

For clean-up on the RRA, the stainless steel parts wiped off. The inside of the chrome lined bolt carrier was fairly easy to clean - seemly a little easier than using Hoppes or Shooters Choice. However, the back of the bolt where carbon normally builds up was difficult to clean, and the crud seemed much harder to scrape off. I am probably going to get soaked in Hoppes or something similar (I tried FR7 on the other RRA and found it tended to make the carbon easier to scrape off). The carbon was baked on pretty tough. That is the only thing that I was not impressed with. Other than that, all treated firearms that I have fired have functioned as designed.

 

[KeithR]

Where do you guys get Frog Lube?

I got mine from Amazon.com

 

[Justin69]

The biggest mistake most guys make when applying FL, is that they dont let it soak into the metal long enough. The directions I got say to heat weapon (setting it in sun, or hair dryer) then apply & let sit for an hour & then wipe off excess FL. When applied properly there is NOTHING better.

 

[DJFaninTN]

grrrr ... you guys are making me go out and try new stuff. glad the wife is out of town this weekend!

 

[2tango2]

The biggest mistake most guys make when applying FL, is that they dont let it soak into the metal long enough. The directions I got say to heat weapon (setting it in sun, or hair dryer) then apply & let sit for an hour & then wipe off excess FL. When applied properly there is NOTHING better.

I probably didn't wait a full hour when I first did it the other night. Do I need to start from scratch as in strip everything off it with rubbing alcohol? Or can I just clean it with the liquid FL and the start over with the heating etc with the paste?

 

[Rastoff]

Thanks I'd like to see some pics, we can round the 980 up, close enough! I'll keep checking back. I appreciate it.

Silly boy. I've had the gun for just over one month and I've already shot it a bunch. You didn't think I'd miss an excuse to fire it some more, did you?

The gun now has 1,161 rounds through it.

Here are some pics of the wear points. I've used Frog Lube from day one. I don't think there is any more or less wear due to the Frog Lube.

 

[Justin69]

I probably didn't wait a full hour when I first did it the other night. Do I need to start from scratch as in strip everything off it with rubbing alcohol? Or can I just clean it with the liquid FL and the start over with the heating etc with the paste?

No need to use alcohol if you already treated it once with fl. I would retreat it & let it sit & soak into the metal longer. They recommend treating it twice anyway

 

[Justin69]

Where do you guys get Frog Lube?

If you go to there web site www.froglube.com @ the top left click "buy froglube" then click your state. It will list dealers in your area that have it. May save u $ on shipping

 

[loveMD]

New to the forum, but I recently bought an M&P 9 so reading up and saw this thread. I know there are alot of different products out there, many are very good and many have loyal followings. FL is worth ditching them for. Do you have to use it? No, plenty of good products, cheaper products. But the beauty of FL is that you only need it, its plant based rather than petro based...which is huge trust me.....it goes along way, you save time and materials after the initial application, it doesnt reek up the house, doesnt harm the environment, and is made in usa. The downside is it costs, but quality costs, special things cost, FL is such a product.

 

[richeyo2]

Silly boy. I've had the gun for just over one month and I've already shot it a bunch. You didn't think I'd miss an excuse to fire it some more, did you?

The gun now has 1,161 rounds through it.

Here are some pics of the wear points. I've used Frog Lube from day one. I don't think there is any more or less wear due to the Frog Lube.

Thanks for the pics man, much appreciated.

With that said it does not look any different than a couple of my XDM's w/1,000 + rds through. I might give it a try when I run out of my norm. But the Mobil-1 I've been using for years seems to be working just as well. Not downing the FL by any means so please don't take it loke that.

The way some were talking it didn't show any marks/rubs using FL, which like I thought was far stretched. I believe as long as you keep the firearm clean/lubed most products will work.

 

[loveMD]

I agree rich

I agree with you rich. I think there are many solid choices out there and fl isnt some miracle substance, its just one of the better choices. I think it appeals to people for its simplicity, ease of handling, lack of toxicity, and time saved not having to do more than wipe down after range use. It is hands down the highest reviewed stuff if you look at sites like amazon that sell it. Great product, but not magic.

 

[Rastoff]

...the Mobil-1 I've been using for years...

...it didn't show any marks/rubs using FL,...

I'm with loveMD. Frog Lube is not a miracle product. As I said before, it doesn't lubricate any better than any other product I've tried.

However, it does do two things much better; make clean up easier and doesn't attract dirt.

I live and shoot in very dusty environments. Here's a pic of my local range:

As you can see, it's just a giant plot of dirt.

Here's a pic of a USPSA match:

More and more dusty, dirty venues.

If I were to use regular petroleum based products, my guns would be coated with dirt when I get home. With Frog Lube, they are not. This alone makes it worth the price for me.

 

[loveMD]

Thats a good point, big leg up on keeping something clean if its protected by something that keeps it from getting dirty.

 

[AFrost20]

I treated all 3 of my hand guns with FL tonight. They are all fairly new, but even the slide action seemed worlds smoother to me. I also like the fact that it doesn't stink!

 

[skyscratcher1969]

Eezox

Hello, I have not used FL but have been using Eezox for some time now. I have been using it on my pistols and micro-pistols and since starting they have been running like fine watches! I have spent much time researching lube/protectants and feel this is near the top. To justify my claim look at the results from testing here http:///www.6mmbr.com/corrosiontest.html

 

[Maddmax]

The biggest mistake most guys make when applying FL, is that they dont let it soak into the metal long enough. The directions I got say to heat weapon (setting it in sun, or hair dryer) then apply & let sit for an hour & then wipe off excess FL. When applied properly there is NOTHING better.

Kind of like everything. When all else fails,read the instructions or manual.

I've been shooting over 50 years and this is by far the best product I have found. The more you use it,the better it gets. The best part (besides being food grade rated),is it doesn't hurt any polymer or plastic. It can be used on anything that needs a little lube. IF you feel the need,on the M&P's you can put a small drop of the liquid on the noted lube parts and not worry.

 

[jayiw]

The biggest mistake most guys make when applying FL, is that they dont let it soak into the metal long enough. The directions I got say to heat weapon (setting it in sun, or hair dryer) then apply & let sit for an hour & then wipe off excess FL. When applied properly there is NOTHING better.

I just got a 8oz bottle of Frog Lube from an Ebay seller. It did not come with any instructions except for a little blurb on the bottle just saying to scrub with FL, run patch, wipe excess. Nothing even about heating or letting it sit.

I went to the FL website and it says to heat the gun and let it sit for an ample amount of time but nothing about how long. Maybe what you got is updated directions.

I previously used Militec as a lube so I am used to heating the gun although with Militec you heat it after applying rather than before. I do my cleaning in what used to be the garage so it gets cold in there. I have a portable radiator type heater in there so all I have to do is lay the gun parts on top of it for a few minutes to heat them up.

I can't wait to try this stuff. Man does it smell good. My fingers smell like Wintergreen Mint just from handling the bottle!

Jay

 

[2tango2]

I have a couple of applications of it on my XD-S and I gotta say it feels like the smoothest gun in my collection now. Prior to using FL on it I was having all sorts of FTF's and issues each range session. Ever since applying FL it has been gold...no issues whatsoever

Coincidence? Maybe but fwiw it is now one if not my favorite gun to shoot now

And yes it smells awesome

 

[Justin69]

Kind of like everything. When all else fails,read the instructions or manual.

I've been shooting over 50 years and this is by far the best product I have found. The more you use it,the better it gets. The best part (besides being food grade rated),is it doesn't hurt any polymer or plastic. It can be used on anything that needs a little lube. IF you feel the need,on the M&P's you can put a small drop of the liquid on the noted lube parts and not worry.

Madmax, U are correct. I also use it on my knives. Works great!!

 

[Ryme]

I have my order in for both the liquid and paste kit. So let me get this straight, you guys are using the paste on all parts but the barrel and using the liquid on the barrel correct?

 

[Rastoff]

I have my order in for both the liquid and paste kit. So let me get this straight, you guys are using the paste on all parts but the barrel and using the liquid on the barrel correct?

Nope, I use the paste for the initial preparation and the liquid for cleaning after shooting.

If you heat the parts before application, the paste will melt onto the parts. It will get everywhere and that's what you want. Then let it sit for 20 minutes or so and just wipe it down.

To clean after shooting, I'll put a little of the liquid stuff on an old toothbrush and just scrub everywhere. Then I wipe it all down and apply a little of the liquid to the rails.