Full Size 9mm for Home Defense ?'s

[spad124]

If you're determined to rule out DA/SA pistols, then I suggest the S&W M&P9 2.0. If, however, you'd consider a good DA/SA then I suggest a CZ 75BD. It has a decocker instead of a 1911 like safety- and you seem to want to rule out 1911s. The 75BD decocks to half cock and the DA starts from half cock giving a shorter pull. Plus the SA has more than average take up which means the pistol was designed so the DA and SA were more similar in pull than many DA/SAs (Sig or Beretta). It took me a while to figure that out. At first I thought the SA was an unreasonably long pull, but once I understood the designer's intent, as similar a pull for DA and SA as possible, it made perfect sense. Plus the 75 is an all steel frame pistol that is known for its accuracy and - most important for HD in my opinion- reliability. The out of the box triggers on new 75BDs can be a bit rough. However the triggers wear in after some shooting and become great triggers. You'd want to practice with your HD guns anyway- right?

As far as a reliable (again my no 1 criteria) pistol, Sig P226 CPOs are a great value. If you can find a DAK model DA/SA becomes a non issue.

 

[federali]

My three favorite 9mms for ergonomics are the Browning HP, the S&W Model 39-2 and the Kahr Arms Model T9. I'm also very pleased with my recently acquired Beretta M-9 although your hand size should at least be medium for this gun. The latter gun can hold up to 18 rounds without an extended magazine. I would not want to find myself at the wrong end of any of these handguns.

 

[BAM-BAM]

My three favorite 9mms for ergonomics are the Browning HP, the S&W Model 39-2 and the Kahr Arms Model T9. I'm also very pleased with my recently acquired Beretta M-9 although your hand size should at least be medium for this gun. The latter gun can hold up to 18 rounds without an extended magazine. I would not want to find myself at the wrong end of any of these handguns.

The newer commercial Beretta 92s ( from about 2000 onward) with the radius'ed backstrap ..... combined with ultra-thin G-10 grips; feels much smaller in the hand and has a shorter trigger reach. If you have large hands the regular G-10 grips may be better.

Check out Mec-gar's flush fit 18round mag for the Beretta92..... another great upgrade!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you have a 915 or 59xx try the straight backstrap grips.... to me they give these guns more of a Browning HP feel in the hand.

 

[BAM-BAM]

boatbumm101 Maybe a Mossberg 20ga super bantam would be a better choice for home defense that can be handled by kids and women that are not handgun folks . .

Check out Mossberg's 510 Youth model; 20gage, 3+1, short 18.5 inch barrel, short 34" OAL and short LOP (10.5-11.5")......I like the EZ-reach forearm, and tang safety.... add 5 extra rounds on the butt (3 buck 2 slugs) True-Viz Fiber Optic front sight and you've got a great family friendly home defense or truck gun.

 

[BLACKHAWKNJ]

S&W M639. Mine has a very smooth trigger-out of the box.

 

[mrchuck]

My bedroom pistol is a Walther P99QA.
The trigger pull is always 5.6 lbs.
qa stands for quick action.
All Walther and Smith&Wesson needs are now in Ft Smith, Arkansas.

 

[junglefighter]

A suggestion I will make,which is what I did,is wait until the 22nd and the Shot Show opens and the new firearms will be shown.I passed on all the Black Friday,pre & post Christmas sales to see what is new for 2019.I am glad I did as there are already posts/pictures on web sites on the new firearms.There are alot of new and exciting firearms for 2019.

 

[OLDSTER]

I have a Tristar C100 (made by Canik) and it is a genuinely great pistol. It was my bedside pistol for a while, but lately I've been buying up some of the .40s folks are giving away right now - $385 for a H&K USP Compact is hard to pass up, and I paid under $300 for a SIG P226. The P226 is taking over bedside for the Canik.

Anyway, my point is I vote for the Canik. I don't even like striker fired guns and I'll likely end up with a TP9SF at some point.

The gun I'd recommend that isn't on the list is the king of all 9mms - the Browning Hi Power. My #2 would be a CZ75 (or the Tristar C100!) - I know you said no DA/SA, but it can be carried cocked and locked so DA/SA operation isn't a requirement.

Agree with the Hi Power.

 

[sheepdawg]

I thought this was the S&W Forum, S&W Model 915.

 

[jeeps]

Yes get some good 38 special ammo. Best house gun ever!! Screw the plastic junk.

 

[EdinDenver]

For what it's worth, Browning doesn't make the High Power anymore and used guns are currently going at a huge premium for some reason.

Out of your list, I suspect the HK VP-9 will fit your hand better. I have multiple Glocks - full sized (17) fit my hand better than sub-compact (19) and comparing it to the HK - the HK fits better. The issue with the HK is the mag release is at the trigger guard and you push down. If you train and are in a stressful situation, you are going to rely on muscle memory and you won't find that mag release. It's the only reason I am considering selling mine.

Honestly, I really like the Glock 43 with night sights. Yeah, it's only 6 rds out of the box for CCW, but you can get extended magazines and grips that have 9 rounds - that seems to be enough to get me to my safe for other options.

The only way you're going to find what fits your hand is to go to a range that rents multiple options, and give them a try.

 

[Rio Laxas]

While my favorite full size 9mm is the SIG P210-6, my favorite home defense 9mm is the SIG Sauer P226. While mine are DA/SA, they do make a single action only version of the P226 Legion.

 

[gonerydin]

For what it's worth, Browning doesn't make the High Power anymore and used guns are currently going at a huge premium for some reason.

Out of your list, I suspect the HK VP-9 will fit your hand better. I have multiple Glocks - full sized (17) fit my hand better than sub-compact (19) and comparing it to the HK - the HK fits better. The issue with the HK is the mag release is at the trigger guard and you push down. If you train and are in a stressful situation, you are going to rely on muscle memory and you won't find that mag release. It's the only reason I am considering selling mine.

Honestly, I really like the Glock 43 with night sights. Yeah, it's only 6 rds out of the box for CCW, but you can get extended magazines and grips that have 9 rounds - that seems to be enough to get me to my safe for other options.

The only way you're going to find what fits your hand is to go to a range that rents multiple options, and give them a try.

Small detail. Browning never made a Browning Hi-Power.


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[Grayfox]

JayFramer said:

I'd just put .38s in the .357.

There's your answer right there.

OP said:

Rest of the uninvited guest greeters will be 1911's in 45acp .

Sounds to me like you pretty much got home defense covered already.

According to your criteria, about all that's left are striker fired plastic and Hi-Powers. I have no doubt which one I'd choose.

C'mon now, be honest. I think you're just looking for an excuse to buy a new 9mm ain't ya?

 

[BAM-BAM]

Small detail. Browning never made a Browning Hi-Power.


Or the Browning BDA..........

Marketing ......................... it's all marketing!

 

[Muss Muggins]

If those are the only pistols that fit your hand, which is the only variable I see outside of good firearm judgment, get a barbed wire wrapped baseball bat . . .

Full Size 9mm Pistols for Home Defense
As stated these will be for inside the home self defense . For CCW one might arguably want a smaller gun . As of now I've 4 .357 mags in that role that I wish to replace . If you've ever had the need to cut loose with a .357 indoors you get my point . Rest of the uninvited guest greeters will be 1911's in 45acp .
My criteria is full size , 9mm +p capable , visible good sights , a decent trigger & it must fit my hand & not a 1911. Subjective as most things are about a handgun . Not crazy about DA/SA nor do Glocks fit my hand . What I've found so far :
1) Walther PPQ M2 5" upgraded Dawson sights , damn good trigger for striker gun .
2) Canik TP9SF Elite 4.5" , Warne Tactical sights , even nicer trigger than Walther . Have heard these have problems with breaking firing pins , plus they're imported by Century .
3) HK VP9 4 or 5" . Haven't had the chance to check one of these out yet , but have heard they're nice .
4) Steyr L or M9 , again aint had my mitts on one either . Low bore axis , different sights for sure . Have heard grip is like trying to hold a 2 X 4 .
I'm sure there's other choices , but I don't want to have to do action work , replace sights etc. to get what I want . Any suggestions ?

 

[URIT]

You don't need to worry about the effect of the noise decibel level in the house if your fight or flight meter is pinging at max because of an armed intruder, so scrapping the 357s for 9mm isn't necessary.

Buy the gun you want; but first, update your home security.

Deadbolt locks with longer bolts and strike plates secured with 3" screws along with better exterior and interior lighting are better home security investments.

Motion sensor nightlights are much better than night sights when placed in the hallway and just inside the BR doorway when you are roused from sleep in the middle of the night.

A simple, inexpensive door stopper security bar on the BR door can add seconds or minutes to your personal space defense plan that give you time to call the police and arm yourself.

My choices are the S&W Governor and S&W model 3953 because they are simple to operate when I'm stressed to the max.

 

[imcrazy]

M&P with a 4.25" barrel, a newer 1.0 with the better trigger or a 2.0... My 'house gun' is a used M&P 1.0 that I paid $325 for, tossed on some night sights and a crimson trace laser grip I bought on armslist on the cheap... My EDC is a M2.0 4" compact or a Shield 9mm, I like to keep all my defensive guns similar.... I would like to add a surefire light on the rail at some time down the road... I keep the gun in a fast access safe in the bedroom closet... So my wife can use it if I am away or if the s really hits the fan I guess I can dual wield and fight my way to the gun safe to get my 870 and Bushmaster...

 

[junglefighter]

The HK VP9 has two models,paddle and button release(VP9B).The new Glock 43X has a 10 rd. mag.same slide as 43 except a longer grip.You will have to go on the web sites for all the info.As I posted earlier,many new firearms for 2019.

 

[chief38]

A handgun only serves as a back-up to a pump SG which is my main HD gun.

 

[HOUSTON RICK]

Forgive my not restricting the action, but I am very partial to the S&W model 915, the Glock 17, S&W M&P, the S&W 5903/5906 and Walther P38.

 

[Scott in NCal]

Full size double stack 9mm's. So many excellent choices, making a mistake is difficult. No one has brought up my current favorite, Ruger SR 9. 100 % reliable, snag free no sharp edges, adjustable sites, great trigger,

 

[jeeps]

Out of all shootings the house gun most likely will not be shot. Most never get used. Do not over think it a six shot wheel gun is perfect. A enough. Rule number 1 have a loaded gun.

 

[dockmurgw]

Others have mentioned my favorite, the Browning Hi Power. But they are getting pricey. If your on a budget, consider the following...within minutes of mentioning it the Hi Power fans are going to put my picture on a dart board. Go to GB, and do a search for FEG Hi Power Clones...still affordable and they are surprisingly well built for a unauthorized copy of a legendary gun. I have one that was sent to South Africa to get around an arms embargo, then eventually imported in the US. It's a lot of fun to shoot, 13 rounds clip, and it was cheap. But if you have nord of a grand to spend you can find the real deal.

 

[amazingflapjack]

I would opt for a pistol caliber carbine with a folding stock and short barrel and hi cap mag. I also like the chiefs shotgun option as well.

 

[bubbatime]

The Walther pistols are truly world class pistols. You cant go wrong with them.

The Smith & Wesson M&P 2.0 is a fantastic pistol. Ergonomic, feels good in the hand, just works.

The Glock 19X (and 45, I own both) are the best Glock pistols ever made. The genius of the Glock pistols are that they are super easy to maintain. Watch a 5 minute YouTube video, and you can completely strip them down to the last part. In fact, I just completely rebuilt my old reliable Gen 3 Glock 19. I replaced all the springs, and updated some of the parts, and I did it myself in less than 5 minutes, with no special tools. If anything ever breaks, I can diagnose the problem in seconds, and repair the problem in minutes. I can have the gun back up and running in less time than it takes to call the "other" manufactures and request a trip back for repair.

I own a Canik and consider them fantastic shooters, but I wouldn't put one in my night stand to depend on. Maybe brand snobbery on my part....

And hopefully this new high capacity 9mm is your backup gun to your carbine or shotgun. Obviously, your primary home defense gun should be some sort of long gun.

 

[wbraswell]

I bought a Walther Creed last year. I like it for home defense. It runs great, but to me, the trigger is just too good to carry for a no safety pistol. I really like the Remington RP45. Mine is exceptional, but I have no experience with the RP9.

 

[beagleye]

CZ 75 family!

 

[Targets Guy]

My Ruger SR1911 is on the job 24/7. 9 mm; 9 in the mag and one up the pipe. Cocked and ready to go.

Stainless steel slide and barrel, anodized aluminum grip frame. Drift-adjustable Novak@ 3-dot sights. Weighs in at 29.3 oz.