Gas Price Check...

I'm not 100% on what I am about to say, so someone here correct me if wrong.

From what I understand, it is cheaper for us to import oil, and sell ours, than the cost to refine everything we drill here. Could be BS but it went that we would be paying lots more at pump for our own oil.

Anyone know more about this and what the actual facts are?

I know here in NZ our crude is light crude and not suitable for refining into petrol/gasoline. I don't know about US crude though.

Recently our one and only refinery went from refining crude oil into petrol to importing already refined product. And prices went up immediately (six months before this latest cycle of price rises.
 
91 octane, your lowest, is usually considered premium in the US, although 93 and 93 are also premium.

I've never heard of 98.

Regular here is typically 87.

Do you know why the octane ratings are so high in Kiwiland?

Back when I was a kid we had "standard" (87 leaded octane) and "Super" (89 unleaded octane) at the pumps. Then we went to 91 for unleaded and when 87 "leaded fuel" was passed out 95. Then we got "premium (98). This was in the le 90's, when people began to be concerned about global warming and emissions. Apparently the higher octane is less harmful to the atmosphere.

We have an ageing vehicle fleet (average age of cars on our roads is 13 years plus) and newer vehicles have smaller and more efficient engines (our new MG ZST, a made in China SUV under the old "Morris Garage" brand, has a 1300cc turbo engine) which are made to run on 95 + octane.

My patrol car, a "Holden" (GM brand now discontinued) SUV was made in Europe to be used with 95 octane petrol. When they come into service the department negotiated with Holden that they could use 91 octane as a cost saving and retain the warranty.

Last week the engine check light on my car came on at the start of my Sunday shift. I very carefully drove it the 45 minutes to where I could a) pick up a spare car, and b) get it checked by the service centre on Monday morning. The issue was a clogged sensor due to the use of 91 octane fuel.

So modern cars made for the higher octane fuel can, and will, be damaged by using the lower octane.

On a side note, in 2018 when Karen and I visited the U.S., we drove a brand new (27 miles on the clock at pickup) Hyundai Elantra rental car. There was no owners manual (I had to go online when a warning light came on to find out why) and no stickers inside the fuel cap flap, so I just used 87. Of course I also discovered that unlike here, where petrol/gas pumps ar green/blue and diesel black, in the U.S. it is reversed.

Just as well I could not get the pumps to work with the green "diesel" pump in the tank at he first fill. :D:D:D
 
Covering a fair amount of territory today , it was $4 to $4.19 for regular . But volatile .

In the modern era , stations change their price with each fuel delivery . Back in the day of two pump mom & pop stations , that could be a week or more between . But at the now typical convience mart surrounded by sixty' leven pumps , it averages about 36 hours between deliveries .
 
I'm not 100% on what I am about to say, so someone here correct me if wrong.

From what I understand, it is cheaper for us to import oil, and sell ours, than the cost to refine everything we drill here. Could be BS but it went that we would be paying lots more at pump for our own oil.

Anyone know more about this and what the actual facts are?
First: Who would buy our oil at a higher price than what US pays for imported oil.
Second: Our oil is much cleaner and needs less refining.
Third: Transporting our own oil has got to be cheaper by pipeline than transporting on a tanker over the ocean.
If you mean importing from Canada or Mexico, you may have a point there.
$4.29 today
 
I think I recently read that Italy was 100% energy dependent on them and Germany 50%. Someone correct me if wrong, but if so that is where the prices would fly for the world if oil is sanctioned.

I guess we could try to look at it as our own personal contribution to Freedom and Democracy. We don't have to like it, but the world is stepping up, and that means we all need to do what we can, and take some pain if that is. what is needed to help defeat Tyranny.

OUR Country was built on a lot of pain and a lot gave their lives so we could live like we are able to live.

I'll d my part and take some pain.

This isn't meant as a rant to your post. Just maybe a way for us to look at what's going on that can help us better accept some of it.

Things that were done that hurt our own energy independence before all this happened, I am not speaking on, if ya know what I mean.....

And if you don't want to pay more for gas, maybe you'd like to step up and do what these guys are doing. Most of them probably won't come home. ( I started a thread with this in the lounge)
God Bless all of them that do this- They are true Americans that are willing to pay the ultimate sacrifice if it comes to that- for the Freedom of strangers.

American veterans are heading to Ukraine to join the country's fight against Russia: report

I agree with you on the price we pay for freedom, but in this case the price doesn't have to be so high for the same result. The adm. should also "hurt" by reversing their environmental nonsense. They don't pay for the fuel in their vehicles-we do.
We, not the gov't, will sacrifice for Ukraine-that's what we do.
 
Dothan, AL 3.699-$3.999 + on 3/6.
Between Hartford and Enterprise at Marathon in the country it was $3.689 for the past two days.
In Enterprise Reg went up 10 cents while we were at the show on Saturday and now sits at $3.999. On Friday it jumped 30 cents during the four hours we were in Dothan Setting up.
Diesel is now $4.799+ in Enterprise and just a few cents cheaper at spots in Dothan.
No end in sight.
Just about everything at the diners has increased in the past two weeks, same with the food stores.
Thom Braxton
SWCA #1474
 
$3.39 across the river in Missouri yesterday.

Don’t know here in IL. I refuse to buy it here. It’s likely $4.00 or more due to our taxes.
 
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Dothan, AL on 3/6 Regular is hovering between $3.769 and $4+. diesel is all over $4.
On Friday Enterprise jumped 30 cents during the four hours we were in Dothan setting up for the show, then jumped another 10 cents while we were at the show yesterday. Now sitting a$3.999 at most stations. Diesel is all over $4.
At the Marathon in the country between Hartford and Enterprise they have held at $3.689 for three days and diesel just below $4.
No end in sight here.
Thom Braxton
SWCA #1474
 
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One aspect of gasoline prices
in given periods is that they can
can drive vehicle purchases.

Sustained high gas prices often
drive up sales of smaller cars,
the SUV market suffers. Then
comes lower prices and people
flock back to bigger vehicles.

However long this gas "crisis"
prevails, the use of electric
vehicles is going to keep going
up. End of story.
 
In the neighborhood of $3.70 for regular in West Texas today. Cheapest I saw for regular was $3.50 which was in Del Rio. I have found that the cheapest gas is usually in Uvalde, but not today.
 
I've not got gas in the past few days. It was $3.59 last time I filled up. Just checked online and the norm in my area is $4.00 now.

Doesn't really matter, and can't see a reason to complain...it ain't gonna change nothing.

People still have to drive no matter what it costs. Usually my area doesn't get much rain at all in April and May. My bike gets close to 50 MPG if I keep it below 85 MPH. Just another reason to ride more.
 

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