Glock 19 or M&P 9mm

[asmello44]

I was looking at two guns. The glock 19 or the m&p 9mm. I think both are well made and warrant discussion. The best price I found on the glock is $550 in my area. The kicker is my local shop has the m&p 9mm for $400. This is a first gun and was looking for something and came up with these two. Any comments/opinions.

I am asking for an unbiased opinion if possible.

Thank you.

 

[redwood0_7]

Probably can't go wrong with either. I have 3 m&ps and a glock 43. I like the changeable grips on the m&p so if I had to choose one it would be m&p. But that is just my opinion. To be fair never had a Glock 19.

 

[Arik]

I prefer the G19 but I always buy used so I never spent more than $300 on one

 

[scattershot]

I have made the statement in the past that the M&P is what the Glock should have been all along, and I haven't changed my opinion. I have both, and both are reliable and accurate, but the M&P is available with a thumb safety, which I like, and the ergonomics beat the Glock hands down. Even if the price were the same, I'd go with the Smith.

 

[asmello44]

I have made the statement in the past that the M&P is what the Glock should have been all along, and I haven't changed my opinion. I have both, and both are reliable and accurate, but the M&P is available with a thumb safety, which I like, and the ergonomics beat the Glock hands down. Even if the price were the same, I'd go with the Smith.

The reason why I've been leaning towards the m&p is because I can get the glock at that price at anytime but not the m&p. I like the feel/ergonomics better with the m&p but I shot the glock better or was more accurate. I honestly find that having that additional safety as a huge bonus (this being my first gun) although I do know ultimately in the safety.

 

[asmello44]

I don't mean this to be offensive to anyone but from what i have been reading the glock is so much hype that comes from fanboys( which is fine). I've also been told that the quality has been declining. I don't know how true this is though...

 

[Arik]

I don't mean this to be offensive to anyone but from what i have been reading the glock is so much hype that comes from fanboys( which is fine). I've also been told that the quality has been declining. I don't know how true this is though...

There have been issues with certain models. Most of the time when the try to get away from what works. Hey let's change this or that....and the next thing you know there are issues. When they go back to original issues go away. The last issue was circa 2010 and it was erratic ejection due to a redesign of the extractor. Gun still worked. There was no failure to chamber or fire and it was only in 9mm. When the Einsteins went back to the original extractor all erratic ejections stopped

 

[Mister X]

Your comparing a full size M&P to a mid-size Glock. The full size M&P is bigger than the Glock 17. The 19 will conceal better. The Glock is the more proven platform by a huge margin. I would increase trigger pull weight before I chose a manual safety and with the Glock, this is easily accomplished with Glock OEM parts. Look at what the experts carry, look at what Militaries and police forces around the world choose and Glocks are an overwhelming choice. There is good reason for that, no fanboy hype needed. Plus you said you shoot the Glock better.

 

[Rick_A]

The gen 4's had some issues initially, the 42's reportedly are picky feeding some hollow points, and some of the small parts are now made less expensively (sound familiar?).

I like Glocks, but the die hard Glock fan boys really give the brand a sleazy vibe.

It's a gun and only perfection in Gaston's eyes.

Nothing is perfect. It's what's perfect for you. Whichever you lIke better and/or shoot best should be the obvious choice.

 

[asmello44]

The gen 4's had some issues initially, the 42's reportedly are picky feeding some hollow points, and some of the small parts are now made less expensively (sound familiar?).



I like Glocks, but the die hard Glock fan boys really give the brand a sleazy vibe.



It's a gun and only perfection in Gaston's eyes.



Nothing is perfect. It's what's perfect for you. Whichever you lIke better and/or shoot best should be the obvious choice.

I like the m&p more but shot the glock better. In all honestly I'll prob get both in time I'm just trying to decide which is better first because this is a first gun ever.

 

[Arik]

http://www.outdoorhub.com/news/2015/08/13/video-many-rounds-take-melt-glock/

Great video on reliability. Over 600 rounds in full auto with a guide rod that melted all over the internals. Trigger melted, cross bar melted and still shooting. Quick change to a metal guide rod and over 1200 rounds in continuous full auto without cleaning or anything else other then installation of a metal guide rod. And this is a converted gun, the model 17. The original full auto Glock 18 has different internals specifically to run on full auto

 

[Stevewins]

I have both and both are good. My M&P has no safety, which I prefer. The M&P has noticeably better ergonomics but I actually shoot the Glock a little better in rapid fire. I don't know why since the triggers on mine feel almost identical. In slow bullseye fire mine are equal. The Glock is easier to fully disassemble. I have a Glock 26 also which is pocketable and can use G19 mags, both can use factory 33 round mags. If I was starting all over, I'd probably go with M&P first due to the price savings. Although, if I was starting all over I might go with the Walther PPQ or HK VP9 first, both of which have better triggers than Glock or Smith imho.

 

[Pre 29]

Bro buy the one you like they both run fine. As far as Glock reliability, we run probably 20 Glocks in our range rental program. Seven of these are G19's kept in a bag just for concealed carry classes. Those seven came from Yonkers NY PD probably seven years ago when they were traded in for new G19's. They were cleaned when we got them and not since and I know they will run fine when I take them out in two weeks for our next class. As I write this there's a G20 10 mm very close to my right hand loaded with WW Silvertips that I haven't touched in months and I know it's ready if I need it. Pretty much the only trouble we see with Glocks are from folks changing parts. I like Glocks but they aren't the only guns out there either. I don't stock guns or ammo that I wouldn't use myself and we sell lots of S&W, Sig, Ruger, Walther, H&K and others. I think most guns work pretty well today if people would leave them alone and learn to shoot them. There are no magic bullets and you can't buy enough triggers, and springs, and racing strips to make up for a lack of trigger time. We have a big monitor that I can watch the range on and I can't believe some of the crazy positions people use to shoot from. And I have noticed that the worse they shoot the faster they shoot. You can't miss fast enough to win a gunfight. It is amazing how much a shooter will improve after spending one hour with one of my instructors. Personal instruction from someone knowledgeable and who can explain that knowledge is the best money you can spend. When I started yoga a few years ago I started with private lessons and did two a week for a year and it may have been the best money I ever spent. Starting the morning with an hour of yoga surrounded by women in yoga pants puts a smile on my face.

 

[RobzGuns]

While you are comparing a Fullsize to a Midsize (Compact), Do yourself a favor and shoot both... Side-By-Side if you can.
Some people hate the grip angle of the Glock, while others (including myself) like it.
A vast majority hate the M&P trigger and the very first thing they do is add an Apex Kit, just to make it acceptable.

The G19 may be $100 more, but once you dump another $80-$120 into an Apex Kit, the price difference shrinks quite a bit. There's a reason why the G19 is one of the best selling pistols on the market. And... Used G19s are not that easy to come by.

You need to not only fondle them both (and dry fire them) at the counter, but actually shoot them before deciding. Get the one that shoots better in YOUR hands.

 

[alwslate]

Unbiased opinions are hard to come by. I've never owned an M&P S&W
auto but I do have a G19. The 19 is Glock's best model in my opinion.
I have a gen 2 mod 19, a gen 3 mod 26 and I just bought a new mod
43 but haven't shot it yet. The original Glock was the 17 in 9mm and
overall the various 9mm Glocks seem to be the most reliable and
durable models. As someone else pointed out there are lots of them
in the hands of military and police units around the world. I don't
think you can go wrong with the G19.

 

[McE]

With those numbers, the Glock is not better by $150.

 

[78Staff]

I was looking at two guns. The glock 19 or the m&p 9mm. I think both are well made and warrant discussion. The best price I found on the glock is $550 in my area. The kicker is my local shop has the m&p 9mm for $400. This is a first gun and was looking for something and came up with these two. Any comments/opinions.

I am asking for an unbiased opinion if possible.

Thank you.

Here is similar question in a recent thread... just to confuse you more .

http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-m-p-pistols/440601-m-p9c-glock-19-a.html

Most (but not all) people will add the Apex kit to a S&W. Same for the Glock, most will change the sights. So that becomes a wash really. I like the M&P's. The Glock Gen 3 and Gen 4's just aren't comfortable to me. I could live with a Gen 1/2, but prefer the M&P ergonomics.

 

[Stevewins]

Here's a store where you can get the M&P 9 any time for $419, free shipping, no tax. When they go on sale they're in the $300's. So $400, while good, is not rare, so need to rush into it for that reason.

http://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperst...tsman/smith-and-wesson-m-and-p-series-pistols


I think it's the flat sides of the Glock grip that actually allow me to shoot it better in rapid fire. It's easier for me to instinctively feel when the aim is off a little whereas with my M&P the rounded ergonomic grip, while it feels great, doesn't make it as easy to get back on target as instinctively. It's a minor difference, but noticeable to me.

I put Tru Glo TFX sights on both, so that's a wash. With my aging eyes I need that extra edge. I didn't add any other aftermarket parts on either, or need them. Both triggers feel the same to me and I didn't want to mess with reliability. Extra Glock mags are easy to find for $20, not so much for M&P.

 

[JonMark]

With those numbers, the Glock is not better by $150.

This is exactly what I was thinking. While the Glock and the M&P are neck in neck in a lot of ways - they're both very reliable and will get the job done either way. The price point on both for this specific comparison puts the favor more towards the M&P. Even if some would argue the G19 is a superior weapon, it doesn't warrant an extra $150 for whatever marginally superiority it is believed to have. I've owned more Glocks than I can count - in 9mm, 40, 45, and 357 .. Subcompact and compact, I've never owned the full size Glock. It's a great weapon, but so is the M&P, and with the savings of $150 on essentially the same reliability and function, you can get extra mags, maybe some night sights, and a good holster.

The argument can go on all day on Glock vs M&P, but for your specific situation, I strongly believe the M&P wins it.

 

[Rastoff]

I gotta say, you came to a S&W website looking for an unbiased comparison between a Glock and an M&P? Your premis is flawed.

Then there's this...

I like the m&p more but shot the glock better.

Seriously? You already know you shoot one better than the other and still you have to ask what we think?

OK, here's my unbiased opinion of what's going on. Just go buy the M&P. You know the Glock is the right gun, but for whatever reason, you like the M&P more. Could be price, could be ergonomics, could be color, who knows? Doesn't matter anyway. You came to a biased sight looking for confirmation that buying the wrong gun is the rignt thing to do. So just go buy the M&P.

The only correct answer to these questions is to get the gun you shoot better. Alas, you, just like the hundreds before you, will go buy the gun you've already decided on regardless of what we say. So just go do it.

Be sure to post pics when you get it.