Glock has really shocked me!

I started with the 1911 in 45 as an MP, then to a model 19 in civilian law enforcement, then to custom 1911 45 back on active duty in special units protecting dignitaries from terrorist and then back to civilian law enforcement in retirement where I carried Glock. I carried two wheel guns in the interim as issued when I worked in federal agencies, and the model 92 briefly before I retired. I have carried about everything.

That said, I worked not only anti=terrorism but I worked in 2 badge carrying jobs that were considered the highest incident areas in my state, meaning the highest risk.

And my opinion is this. If I actually expect to be in a gunfight on any day and I can only have one handgun, it will be a Glock. Period. Nothing else on the planet is as simple and reliable.

And, you have to remember that law enforcement has much more risk than me when I go to Walmart or a walk in the park. You never expect to be able to use both hands on the gun, because people jump you, or you may get injured diving to the ground or fighting or shot in one hand. Only a fool thinks they will have both hands on the gun in a gun fight or home invasion.

At home, you will have your phone, your flashlight or maybe pushing your kids out of the way with the off hand, so never, ever plan self defense firing with one hand, it is a fools errand.

I began teaching and certifying people for CCW permits in 1996. Our program only required they fire 50 rounds, but I insisted that many of those rounds be one hand firing. What I found over the years is that many people carried guns they liked the looks or feel of, pretty dumb reason for a carry gun. And they shot lousy with only one hand, very lousy.

If you cannot qualify with one hand shooting, you have the wrong gun, or you have too limited skills to ensure your safety. And that is where Glock and similar guns come in. Lots of striker fired guns work just as well. I trained 2 older ladies on the SW EZ carry 380. Great little guns and easy to fire with one hand, and many others do too. It is not the brand it is the style.

But that is the beauty of the Glocks, anybody can shoot them well and anybody can shoot them with one hand, unless they have one just too big for their hands. That is why Glock made all of those SF or short framer versions.

So I am not the biggest Glock fan, I build 1911s and collect Smith and Wessons. But Glock style is the one that will work for most people on the planet.

We have a saying in the 1911 world, "you carry a custom 1911 to Barbeque, you take your Glock to a Gunfight". And that is the way it is.

Last, I prefer a safety on everything, but much of what I own does not have one, I am a professional, we deal with that. Anyone that is not comfortable without some third or other safety, should not carry a gun without one. It is a mental thing. And when I carry a gun in the pocket like a Glock or Keltec Pf9, or Ruger LCP or even a J Frame, I always carry in a soft holster with the trigger covered and I am disciplined, nothing else EVER going into that same pocket, only a fool would add something that might get into a trigger guard.

However, I am also an attorney, I see accidents every day, accidents are caused by people doing foolish things, including me.

My 2 cents.
 
First off, I do not own any Glocks. Secondly I think they are extremely reliable, accurate, consistent and very well designed. So WHY don't I own one?

For me a Glock would only be considered for a EDC pistol - they are certainly no beauty contest winner and I am not into plastic generally . To date, I do not like any of their current offerings for EDC. They either lack the small / light Sig P365-like size, thinness and weight, the caliber I want to EDC (9mm), and the round capacity in that package. I also greatly dislike the trigger "Dingus"!

Quite honestly I am astonished that Glock has never really answered Sig's P365, SA Hellcat, and FN's Reflex. They have a few models that were a feeble attempt, but they have never come out with a true competitive model. I am also shocked that Glock has never offered an optional manual safety from the factory. I am not a Glock fanboy and never owned one, however these facts have always puzzled me.
My first Glock was my first .45 ACP. I wanted something that was a little bigger than a 1911 as I have bog hands. The shop I frequented at the time had a used Para 14 which the guy working there, knowing me, said it would not be his choice and the had a Glock 21 with a rubber slip on grip cover which felt good in my hand and held well. Took it home and the first time I shot it I was sold. Sure I own a lot of sexier guns but no .45acps that shoot as well. Since then I have owned several Glocks.

Other firearms I have carried I never have the safety on. (no 1911s or similar) I am of the school that the primary safety for each gun is in the same place, between my thumb and my ring finger. I learned and have taught the same thing that your finger doesn't belong inside the trigger guard until sights are on target and you're ready to shoot.

I do like carrying my Sig M18 but it doesn't fit inside my pants so in warm weather I either carry a S&W Airweight on my ankle or a semi-auto IWB. I know if I ever need to use a Glock to save my life it's going to do it's job.
 
First off, I do not own any Glocks. Secondly I think they are extremely reliable, accurate, consistent and very well designed. So WHY don't I own one?

… Glock has never offered an optional manual safety from the factory.
We Americans have bigoted opinions about things we overthink. The reason why the Ford Model T of 1908 is identical to the 1927 edition.

Manual safety like a 1911 pistol? Totally unnecessary JMHO.
 
I own plenty of 1911's and shoot them often - love 1911's! That said, after carrying one for all of two weeks (47 years ago) I raised the white flag! For me they are just too heavy, bulky and cumbersome. I like an EDC that I can wear all day …
But you know some lawmen carry a 1911 all day?

It is not meant for everybody. That is why revolvers and other pistols are made.
 
I've carried Glocks for over 34 years now and I am a Glock Armorer. The Glock is one of the most safe and reliable combat pistols there is and at a very affordable price. No need to build specialty guns, let a gun smith do that small market. Glocks design has built in safety features and does not require a manual safety. Glocks are designed to point and shoot and are great guns for transitioning from revolvers to autos.
I guess some people even think a revolver should have a safety.
 
But you know some lawmen carry a 1911 all day?

It is not meant for everybody. That is why revolvers and other pistols are made.
Carrying a 1911 in a duty holster on a duty belt or when soldiers used to carry them on a web belt, is a whole lot different than trying to carry it concealed. Uniformed LEO's and soldiers are not concerned about concealment while on duty. When I tried EDC-ing one concealed, I wore it IWB - not for me.
 
I have shot 1911s more than most and I own a bunch of them.

I carry a Glock, and have so, for the past 30 years...because they work. Period. Ugly? Yep. No one cares what a gun looks like when it's needed.

As far as safety, if you don't want it to shoot, don't pull the trigger.

It's just that easy.

There are only 4 1/2 Cardinal Rules...not that hard to memorize.

Keep in mind, PDs which had revolvers modified for DAO STILL had ND's. It ain't the guns fault.
 
I never seen this much BS about TUPPERWARE that you can't shoot more than one round when you are on your back, Or fire more than one from your jacket pocket, etc,etc. Lee would tell you this is the wrong Forum for that subject, So would SmithNut. One round one kill for tree rats, deer, hogs, etc. . I used a Smith rifle and a model 19 or 686.
 
I’ve owned or at least carried very generation of Glock since I bought a G17 in 1987 when they were hard to even give away. I got over the “limp wristing” issues early on with that 17 and have never had that problem plague me again in 30+ years of carrying Glocks either as primary issues or backup. In retirement I carry P365s because I prefer the triggers, and the smaller overall profile for concealment. I also can’t stand shooting the slim line Glocks or even the G26, but that’s a personal thing. Glocks are still rock solid reliable and safe to carry. The negligent discharges that have been suffered throughout the years are results of bad gun handling, cheap holster malfunctions, and no holsters at all. Some people are perpetually drawn to put their fingers on triggers, compelled to play with guns in pockets, or think the gun store sales pitch for the latest and greatest holster with a thousand accessories are sufficient enough that training is not necessary. Carrying a loaded gun in a pocket or purse or backpack with no holster covering the trigger is a recipe for disaster regardless of the make. A box stock Glock will likely be the weapon of choice for cockroaches who rise up following our apocalyptic demise.
 
Carrying a 1911 in a duty holster on a duty belt or when soldiers used to carry them on a web belt, is a whole lot different than trying to carry it concealed. Uniformed LEO's and soldiers are not concerned about concealment while on duty. When I tried EDC-ing one concealed, I wore it IWB - not for me.
You know Detectives and others in “plainclothes” Details carried 1911s? All that is needed is a great belt and holster combination. If you wear a Size 48 sport coat get a Size 50 so you can go OWB.

People who think a $9 holster on a cheap belt will do for a 1911 is wrong.
 
Glock was a great leap in handgun design and reliability set aside St. Elmer's dictum "They (auto pistols) are never as reliable as the revolver."

Having said. I have owned Glocks since 1992. Have a 19 now. Just bought a Ruger RXM and unless something fails catastrophically, it's a great upgrade on many levels. At $200 cheaper.

The Model T was a great vehicle. When patents expired, people made improvements.
 
A recent thread 'In Praise of a Glock' has 100+ posts and counting with posts as seen here. Gaston started a revolution and it continues 40+yrs and likely will not end. As Glocks are used by countless LE departments and military units as Delta and Seal, doubt they would use if design and function were not worthy. Like this thread but we're rehashing and for me it's a ho-hum here we go again. They are butt ugly but they work each and every time.
I'll add the caveat - when left basically stock. Sights, lights etc are fine. When you go monkeying with the internals, you're seeking solutions to problems that don't exist.
 
Glocks got popular fast being one of the first Tupperware construction type weapons and their lightness to carry.
But they are far from the only handguns that are ultra reliable. There's a reason the military chose Beretta and then
Sig's for their latest sidearms and it has nothing to do with how they look. I have a few of both that have never failed along with others like my Tanfoglio Witness and CZ 75 designs.
Personally I like to target shoot for accuracy and never met a Tupperware with striker trigger I enjoy shooting. BLAH
 
Glock reliability is the one big thing! I have many and they all work. Each time, every time, all the time (unless I screw up). I can't imagine a better pistol to count on if and when you need it.
 
I carried a Glock on duty for years and have fired tens of thousands of rounds through Glocks in competition.

Unless I am going into the city of Chicago or East St. Louis, I carry a 5 shot Smith & Wesson BG38 and one speed strip. I think a well-trained individual, who exercises good situational awareness, can protect themselves in most situations with a good revolver.
 
I like the G21 and it is the only Glock I like. The CZ 9 MM's are by far better guns out of the box, but that's just my opinion. My preferred carry is a CZ P-01, but I have a whole herd of CZ's and now that they are in the polymer field their P-Series has got my interest. The P-10F .45, the P-10C, and the P-09C I bought in a impulse moment and I can say none of them have I been disappointed in. The S&W M&P 2.0 .45 had to go back to the factory when the slide wouldn't release unless you used the release tab, pulling back on the slide wouldn't do it. They returned it within 10 days and it works perfectly now. One note on this. I loaded it up with S&B 185 Grain HP's and was carrying for about week and decided to shoot up the two loaded magazines and all I got was a ":Click" when I squeezed the trigger. I did the tap rack thing and it was bang every time. The round I ejected had a dead primer. Yes, I was carrying this for a week and had the unthinkable happened I had a dead round in the chamber. It happens. I have never had a dud round using S&B ammunition either in .45 or 9MM. IMG_2141 - Copy.JPG
 
One note on this. I loaded it up with S&B 185 Grain HP's and was carrying for about week and decided to shoot up the two loaded magazines and all I got was a ":Click" when I squeezed the trigger. I did the tap rack thing and it was bang every time. The round I ejected had a dead primer.
That's a scary result ! Did you test the primer with one or two more attempts to lite off that primer?
Or was it maybe from the odd lite hit from striker fired M&P?
Just curious.
 
I do carry a Glock frequently, a 26 or 30, and have for the past 7 years. Got my first Glock, a G22 (full-sized 40 S&W) 28 years ago, but due to its size it has seen very little concealed carry. I have put several thousand rds. through the 40. One day I was in SC and I drove that 20+ year-old Glcok to Smyrna, GA (the USA Glock plant) for a check up. They replaced basically everything (gave me an itemized list) except the frame and slide! Charged me NOTHING! They even took my 3 Clinton era 10 rd. mags and replaced them with new 15 rd. mags. Again, no charge.

I LOVE Glocks for the reasons you stated and several more reasons.

I have spoken with a few people at the Smyrna plant (Glock USA) about why there is no Glock to compete with the 365/Hellcat.
They provided 2 answers.
(1) Reliability is Glock's primary objective. And they are not willing market a gun that does not meet their extremely strict reliability standards. (Micro 9s are inherently less reliabile than larger ones.)
(2) It has so far been impossible to make a Glock-style, polymer-coated, TINY mag with a capacity of 10 or more 9 mm rds., and Glock is currently not willing to deviate from their polymer-coated mags (which I think are the best and most durrable handgun mags ever made).

That's what Glock reps. told me.
However, market pressure might drive Glock to compromise on one or both of the 2 answers I was given.

When I need something smaller than a Glock 26, I carry a Hellcat. I expect that my new S&W Bodyguard 2.0 will soon be another smaller alternative to my beloved G26.
 
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