Glock vs. M&P-yup. I'm askin' it.
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texas48
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Glock is my preference. Shoot both well but Glocks are easier to maintain , detail strip , cheaper and more plentiful aftermarket parts, sights availability and much easier to change. All the glocks I own have been 100% reliable and just as accurate as any poly gun I have shot.
Would buy another M&P if they made one for 10mm.
Would buy another M&P if they made one for 10mm.
Glock does not offer a single stack compact. Yet.
They won't ever make one for the US market since it would not pass the import regulations. That is why the .380 is not sold here.
I would not care for one anyway as the only Glock I semi liked is the Baby in Gen 4. I only bought it because of my LE discount just like most LE's and their departments. My only M&P is my new Shield and that one puts my G27 to shame.
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Glock 36, single stack .45 ACP and yes it is available in the USA as I and several people I know own them
That thing is way bigger than a Shield and can not ever be considered "slim". It is not the Glock that people are wishing for. A slimline 9mm or 40 will not happen due to the import point system and I am perfectly fine with that.
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Not even a .25 of an inch difference in width and roughly .50 inch difference in length between them. Don't get me wrong, I love my Shield 9mm and it has better shooting manners than the G36, but they both have their place. And the Glock is single stack sub compact.
Single stack yes, but sub compact it is not.
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For me it has gotten very simple. Late model GEN3 or GEN4 Glocks especially the G19's are having all kinds of problems. It is not myth, internet rumor or whatever. I bought one Glock and after not being able to fix it they sent me 3 (yes 3!) replacement guns.
Two had problems right out of the box. The other two broke down at 800 and 2000 rounds. After trying all the aftermarket fixes I traded it on my M&P 9c which has given me zero problems. My older Glocks work well and I will keep them. But the Ergo's aren't great for my hand. Had a couple of grip chops done and it helped.
The M&P has great Ergo's right out of the box. Put in the APEX Defense/Carry set up and it has the best trigger out there of any polymer pistol I've ever shot. Lots of LEO's in my area switching to M&P's. Just a better all around gun IMHO.
Two had problems right out of the box. The other two broke down at 800 and 2000 rounds. After trying all the aftermarket fixes I traded it on my M&P 9c which has given me zero problems. My older Glocks work well and I will keep them. But the Ergo's aren't great for my hand. Had a couple of grip chops done and it helped.
The M&P has great Ergo's right out of the box. Put in the APEX Defense/Carry set up and it has the best trigger out there of any polymer pistol I've ever shot. Lots of LEO's in my area switching to M&P's. Just a better all around gun IMHO.
KyWstJoe
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After carrying a Sigma 2 years my wife wanted something smaller. I carried a Sigma 4 years and have wanted a G30 for quite some time. My Nephew loves the M7P series and tried to talk us into an M&P 9C and an M&P 45. We shot his and they were OK but I still wanted a G26 and G30. We bought the Glocks and I was really suprised my nephew likes them both, a lot. Go figure.
Can you shoot plus P in that?
I tend to wonder if comparisons of two firearms that are for all intents and perposes eaqual, of having any measurable merit.
By that I mean both the Glock and the M&P are solid well made reliable guns and IMHO one doesnt have a clear advantge over the other, so any advantages tend to be base almost entirely on personal opinions, likes or dislikes. And the desigion on which of the two to buy becomes a matter of opinion based on personal like or in my case, dislikes.
I feel Glocks are a excellent firearm, but I DO NOT like the way any Glock feels in my hand so I doubt I will ever buy a Glock. On the other hand I love the way M&Ps and XDs feel in my hand, so that is what I own both. Do I think my MP or my XDs are better than a Glock in performing the perposes of why they were designed in the first place? No I do not.
I do know my personal opinion is I can do all the things these pistols were designed for better with my M&P and XDs.
For me it came down to what felt best in my hand and what had the best trigger. That is why I bought the XDs and my M&P.
Arthur.
By that I mean both the Glock and the M&P are solid well made reliable guns and IMHO one doesnt have a clear advantge over the other, so any advantages tend to be base almost entirely on personal opinions, likes or dislikes. And the desigion on which of the two to buy becomes a matter of opinion based on personal like or in my case, dislikes.
I feel Glocks are a excellent firearm, but I DO NOT like the way any Glock feels in my hand so I doubt I will ever buy a Glock. On the other hand I love the way M&Ps and XDs feel in my hand, so that is what I own both. Do I think my MP or my XDs are better than a Glock in performing the perposes of why they were designed in the first place? No I do not.
I do know my personal opinion is I can do all the things these pistols were designed for better with my M&P and XDs.
For me it came down to what felt best in my hand and what had the best trigger. That is why I bought the XDs and my M&P.
Arthur.
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I carried Glocks for years but switched to the M&P in 2010. I don't dislike the Glock but there are a few things I like a little better. I found the ergonomics to be better as well as the POA. The sights are better too. On the other side of the coin I find the Glock to be better balanced. In all other respects I find them to be about equal- Trigger (after breaking in), recoil, accuracy, ease of maintainance. As you can see there aren't any big reasons I switched, just a few little ones.
OpsMgr
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Dude, looked at your posts and most of them recommend the same old thing - H&K over S&W M&P. Why are you even here?
Back on topic. I bought a G19 Gen 3 and the trigger is much much better that stock M&P. Even though I like the M&P ergos better, the G19 shoots better. That said, I hope the M&P trigger gets better with time. I like both and will keep both until I see a significant difference.
Tough sell...I'm a G21 guy myself, but I was thinking about making the leap to an M&P45. Just can't quite get there. My Glock shoots really well (I shoot it as good as I can a Kimber 1911), so I'm hesitant to retire the ol' girl. Shot an M&P 40 one time, but I've never liked the 40 cal platform on any pistol.
Meh, Both weapons are quality and fire when needed. Personally I went with the M&P 9mm over the G17 for two simple reasons. The M&P felt more "natural" and less cheap. The other reason is buying from an all American company. I understand Glock makes a few models here in the states but its still uniquely european.
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I got rid of my M&P's and went with a Glock 19. I'll be getting an M&P9 once the old stock is all gone, and when the magazine shortage stops.. Main reason I went glock is so I can have spare parts on hand without sending stuff back to the factory...
Also this cheered me up today.
The most I had for my M&P9 was 3 mags... I'll be getting more come pay day
Also this cheered me up today.
The most I had for my M&P9 was 3 mags... I'll be getting more come pay day
I came from Sig 229 as LE in MA 12 years ago to Glock world in NY. First it was 17 then 22/23. I'm a basic armorer for a bunch of solid handgun platforms. No expert but I do get to take them apart and see lots of em and own a lot of em too.
All said and done it took me 2 years to begin to like Glock. Once I got the muscle memory needed I really began to appreciate the simplicity of them and totally fell in love with the trigger reset.
I had no interest in M&P but got dragged to an armorer class by a friend held by a fed agency. I was thinking "SIGMA" and my expectations were way low! I was very surprised at the M&P and after really absorbing it in it was as if Glock decided they were going to upgrade their design to 21st century.
I view M&P as a much improved Glock. Captive steel rod, the integral steel chassis, almost impossible to break extractor, etc... They did a great job and improving an already excellent design.
Glock didn't make changes and innovate and lets face it, Glock is damn good but very "vanilla" so to say...M&P took the base and made visual as well as practical enhancements. S&W saw the hole and filled it!!
All said and done it took me 2 years to begin to like Glock. Once I got the muscle memory needed I really began to appreciate the simplicity of them and totally fell in love with the trigger reset.
I had no interest in M&P but got dragged to an armorer class by a friend held by a fed agency. I was thinking "SIGMA" and my expectations were way low! I was very surprised at the M&P and after really absorbing it in it was as if Glock decided they were going to upgrade their design to 21st century.
I view M&P as a much improved Glock. Captive steel rod, the integral steel chassis, almost impossible to break extractor, etc... They did a great job and improving an already excellent design.
Glock didn't make changes and innovate and lets face it, Glock is damn good but very "vanilla" so to say...M&P took the base and made visual as well as practical enhancements. S&W saw the hole and filled it!!
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I am probably more comfortable with the Glock than the M&P in that class or type of pistol. Probably has to do with availability of parts and the fact that I have attended the Glock Armorer's Class a great many times (they want you to take it every 3 years). So, I am used to them. That said, I positively would not own that awful RTF finish Glock (too sharp) and I do not care for the Gen 4 Glocks. Thus, I am stuck with the Gen 3 type and for what it is, it is fine. In addition to parts availability and ability to service my own pistol, Glock magazines are not as expensive and their sights are not seemingly "welded" on the slide, making replacement with the sight tools a breeze.
Shawn,
I'm with you there. 3rd Gen I really like. I do NOT like the feel of the Gen 4 in my hand. Parts are a big plus...that is what kept me from being a true XD fan (have a 45 and like it but do NOT like the lack of support from SA nor the mush trigger).
I'm with you there. 3rd Gen I really like. I do NOT like the feel of the Gen 4 in my hand. Parts are a big plus...that is what kept me from being a true XD fan (have a 45 and like it but do NOT like the lack of support from SA nor the mush trigger).
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I'm gonna get slapped for saying this.
But lately Smiths QC with the M&P's.......lacking.
I have to side with glock as of late *but that may change if S&W stops sending out flaking M&P's with guide rod issues*.
I love the feel of the M&P 4x more than the glock. Also like the sights more.
I feel glock mags are better made however.
Glocks finish is tougher.
Kind of a crossroads.
If S&W gets their CQ under control on the M&P's.......M&P all the way. Until then. Glock has the ball.
But lately Smiths QC with the M&P's.......lacking.
I have to side with glock as of late *but that may change if S&W stops sending out flaking M&P's with guide rod issues*.
I love the feel of the M&P 4x more than the glock. Also like the sights more.
I feel glock mags are better made however.
Glocks finish is tougher.
Kind of a crossroads.
If S&W gets their CQ under control on the M&P's.......M&P all the way. Until then. Glock has the ball.
Kind of new to all this, but from the newbie perspective, I've gravitated towards the S&W line instead of the Glocks. We have a G19, but it looks like a stapler with a handle, and feels like I'm holding a brick.
The M&P is sexier, and with the APEX, the trigger is better than the Glock. I put the 3.5 connector and comp springs in the glock, but it still feels like a revolver (ok, just half the distance).
We use the G19 for HD, since it is reliable. The M&P is for USPSA/IPSC and the 1911PC is for IDPA.
The M&P is sexier, and with the APEX, the trigger is better than the Glock. I put the 3.5 connector and comp springs in the glock, but it still feels like a revolver (ok, just half the distance).
We use the G19 for HD, since it is reliable. The M&P is for USPSA/IPSC and the 1911PC is for IDPA.
bandj524
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I own a shield 40 and a glock 22C I would stack my shield against the 27 I used to have and my 22C over the FS 40 m&p I used to have. so it is kinda what ever you shoot best I guess.
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Gen 4 Glock 19. I really like my Shield 9, but would not give up my Glock.
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Gen 4 isn't that bad. I did a slight mod with the back strap.
Much better fit than after market beaver tails. Plus since it is technically factory it shouldn't be disqualified from shooting leagues right?
warbird
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I own several pistols of which two are polymer...my M&P 45c and my CZ 9mm Phantom. Both are absolutely reliable with accuracy going to the CZ. Have never owned a Glock due to the horrible to me grip angle and the looks of it which to me is just butt ugly. To each their own.
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I like both honestly. The M&P just feels better in my hand. Not to say that the glock doesn't, it's just the M&P almost feels like it belongs there. I really want a Glock 30s though. I held one a few days ago and it was hard to give back.
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I go with whichever one you pick up and point that when you then look at the sights is aimed best. Personally, it was the M&P. I like a lot of other things about it, but frankly I don't care about this one is made better than that or that.
Both are proven in the field, both are mass produced. I would have gotten an XD otherwise.
I will own a Glock at some point and put in the effort for the muscle memory on the grip angle, but I have seen plenty of people pick one up and not batted an eyelid before shooting well.
Both are proven in the field, both are mass produced. I would have gotten an XD otherwise.
I will own a Glock at some point and put in the effort for the muscle memory on the grip angle, but I have seen plenty of people pick one up and not batted an eyelid before shooting well.
I carried a G23 & G21 on duty when I was doing armed security. Got laid off due to plant closures & gave them to my son before WI had concealed carry. He went to the police academy & was issued an M&P 40 & told me he liked that a bit better than the Glocks which he loved. Meantime WI got a concealed carry law so I wanted a license & needed a gun. Without much money I bought a Sigma 40VE at an excellent price. I finally ordered an M&P 40C with my son's recommendation. Then I knew a PO who wanted to sell his old (3 years old) duty M&P 40 FS & now I no longer have the Glock yearning. I shot Glocks well - always qualified with a good score. I can buy M&Ps at a much better price at a local police supply store if I'm willing to wait for delivery.
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