I am a new Governor owner. I was wondering if there is an attachment for the Governor to make it into 410 long gun? Thanks.
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I am fairly sure it's illegal.
mc5aw
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If there was an attachment (shoulder stock), it would make your pistol a short barreled rifle and subject to a $200 tax stamp and BATF registration. If you want a long gun, buy a long gun. If you want a short barreled shotgun in a small package look into AOWs.
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Yup, illegal since the very first Federal gun law in 1934.
Thompson Center used to make a slick little carbine conversion for their Contender switch-barrel single shot pistol. Even though it was legal length for a rifle, the ATF bureaucrats decided a receiver is a long-gun or handgun and must remain such forever. Otherwise it's classified same as a machine-gun.
C'mon, who besides a criminal would want a single-shot convertible !
Thompson Center used to make a slick little carbine conversion for their Contender switch-barrel single shot pistol. Even though it was legal length for a rifle, the ATF bureaucrats decided a receiver is a long-gun or handgun and must remain such forever. Otherwise it's classified same as a machine-gun.
C'mon, who besides a criminal would want a single-shot convertible !
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Well, my thought was that I wanted to shoot the Governor 410 when I shot at the sporting clay range. They do no allow handguns on the range. So, I thought I would just add an attachment and shoot at moving targets with the Governor. I would not hit much in the air, but it would be fun with the close rolling ground targets. I will figure something out. No problem.
Well, my thought was that I wanted to shoot the Governor 410 when I shot at the sporting clay range. They do no allow handguns on the range. So, I thought I would just add an attachment and shoot at moving targets with the Governor. I would not hit much in the air, but it would be fun with the close rolling ground targets. I will figure something out. No problem.
DonD
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There are few limits to the stupidity of bureaucracies. Don
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Not really quite accurate.
It IS illegal to adapt a shoulder stock onto a short barrel hand gun. If it has a long enough barrel then the stock can be attached, but it is still a hand gun, and will always be clasified as a handgun.
As stated above a rifle is always a rifle, it cannot be converted to a handgun without a federal tax stamp.
Having the stock for a contender and not having a long barrel would be illegal even if not attached. You actually would have to be careful to put the long barrel on before you put the stock on.
The legal battle T/C had was to have the contender chambered in .410 at all. When they won the battle it paved the way for the revolvers like the govenor.
To be clear, What the OP is asking about is illegal. The Contender carbine is perfectly legal with the right barrel.
I am not a lawyer so as always "dont take my word for it" Ed
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mc5aw
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You thought wrong. What you should think about is learning the law re: SBRs and AOWs so that you don't get charged with a felony should you choose to improperly and illegally modify a Governor.
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Not to mention, a good way to get banned from that range.
vito
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I wonder about loading the Governor with 410's and using it as home defense gun. I also wonder what it would be like to fire indoors, with any of the approved loads for this gun.
oberon
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The restriction for short bareled shotguns emerged as a means to prosecute gangstas while the Volsted Act was law, if they couldn't be pinched with the goods. The feds were in a difficult position dealing with badguys carrying the likes of easily concealed shotguns. The sawed-off was declared contrband. Including smoothbore pistols. New ones anyway.
As if that wasn't bad enough, the GCA of 1968 (thanks a lot, Ted........ now you are dead) very nearly banned all handguns possessed by civilians. It was a very bad and desperate time for the IIA. That was a real mess, and as a tradeoff, we agreed to pay an NFA tax on SBRs, Short barelled shotguns, and what we affectionately call 'class III' guns. FFLs were regulated and there was no more mail order sales of firearms. Registration continues to be illegel, thank God.
We are fortunate to have what we have now. If the socialist liberal pinkos had gotten their way, we would be adressing one another as 'comrade'.
So bone up on what really got the anti-IIA thing rollin' and don't do anything that will attract attention. It will affect the future of all free men.
Rant off.
As if that wasn't bad enough, the GCA of 1968 (thanks a lot, Ted........ now you are dead) very nearly banned all handguns possessed by civilians. It was a very bad and desperate time for the IIA. That was a real mess, and as a tradeoff, we agreed to pay an NFA tax on SBRs, Short barelled shotguns, and what we affectionately call 'class III' guns. FFLs were regulated and there was no more mail order sales of firearms. Registration continues to be illegel, thank God.
We are fortunate to have what we have now. If the socialist liberal pinkos had gotten their way, we would be adressing one another as 'comrade'.
So bone up on what really got the anti-IIA thing rollin' and don't do anything that will attract attention. It will affect the future of all free men.
Rant off.
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GCA 68 didn't come anywhere near banning handguns, though I'm sure it's sponsors would have liked to.
What it did was ban imports of handguns not considered suitable for sporting purposes using a point system.
This banned James Bonds pistol, the Walther PPK (extremely popular in the U.S. at the time thanks to Sean Connery.)
Interarms and Walther worked around the problem by combining the PP frame with the PPK barrel and slide to form the PPK/s, which passed the point system.
The first handgun I purchasd on my own at age 21 was one of the last PPK/s imported from Germany by Interarms before theyI started making them here under license from Walther.
IIRC , the dollar was very weak at the time (Jimmy Carter era) which made the German-built guns very expensive.
I dashed to an LGS soon as I read about it to pick up one of the new, less-expensive guns. The dealer only had a German-built model but let me have it for the same price.
Still have it 34 years later.
