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Sebago Son
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ogilvyspecial
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I was glad to see that the writer's assessment, as well as some of the comments, accurately reflected my experience using The Judge as a "critter gun". I sold it just as soon as I realized that it had about the same effective range as a Louisville Slugger, and it didn't take long for me to figure that out.........
millbilly
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Here in Illinois the Governor always ends up in jail.......
J.P.60
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A new low in a wrong direction for S&W, in my opinion. To put out an ugly gun with little value, just because Taurus has done so, simply makes it appear that S&W is now Taurus-North.
Disappointed.
Disappointed.
badguybuster
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That is seriously ugly and a shameful copy.
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Sigh...
Every range shooting test I have seen online of a shotgun revolver involves one of those trick targets that highlights the impact point with high visibility colors. People think for some reason that this impressive color display equals some kind of performance for a defensive handgun. That is wrong.
A handgun/shotgun like the Judge and now the Governor are terrible defense weapons. They are flashy and absurd meant to appeal to the Desert Eagle crowd (specifically the crowd that thinks a DE is a great defense weapon). Shame on Smith and Wesson for a weapon of dubious performance that is a copy of a poor quality manufacturer.
I will predict the future; thick people will fill the cylinders of these absurd revolvers with .460 S&W Magnum loads (you know, for defense) and turn them into hand grenades. Hilarity ensues...
Every range shooting test I have seen online of a shotgun revolver involves one of those trick targets that highlights the impact point with high visibility colors. People think for some reason that this impressive color display equals some kind of performance for a defensive handgun. That is wrong.
A handgun/shotgun like the Judge and now the Governor are terrible defense weapons. They are flashy and absurd meant to appeal to the Desert Eagle crowd (specifically the crowd that thinks a DE is a great defense weapon). Shame on Smith and Wesson for a weapon of dubious performance that is a copy of a poor quality manufacturer.
I will predict the future; thick people will fill the cylinders of these absurd revolvers with .460 S&W Magnum loads (you know, for defense) and turn them into hand grenades. Hilarity ensues...
You forgot to mention the most important point and undoubtedly why Smith & Wesson is marketing "The Governor."
The Taurus Judge has been selling like hotcakes! Dealers around here can't keep them on their shelves and 3/4 of my shooting buddies own at least one variant.
I have no interest in this kind of revolver, but if Smith makes them, people buy them, and they turn a profit in the process, more power to them. That's what being in business is all about.
Smith following Taurus - that can't be good.
A new frame size?
Does the frame have a letter name yet?
I wonder if the frame fitted with a long barrel will allow S&W to make hunting revolvers more powerful than N frames but not so enormous as X frames. Dan Wesson's .445 and their equally long .41 cartridges might fit. It could be there's a revolver you guys all desperately need but you just don't know it yet.
Since Taurus has a .454 & 410 shot shell firing version of their Ragging Bull S&W might copy that thing next using a .460 X frame.
The result will be a revolver with great 200 yd. ballistics and poor 15 yd. accuracy.
Does the frame have a letter name yet?
I wonder if the frame fitted with a long barrel will allow S&W to make hunting revolvers more powerful than N frames but not so enormous as X frames. Dan Wesson's .445 and their equally long .41 cartridges might fit. It could be there's a revolver you guys all desperately need but you just don't know it yet.
Since Taurus has a .454 & 410 shot shell firing version of their Ragging Bull S&W might copy that thing next using a .460 X frame.
The result will be a revolver with great 200 yd. ballistics and poor 15 yd. accuracy.
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NFrameFred
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I guessing the next new S&W 22 auto will look like a Whitney Wolverine . . .
Combat_Diver
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No, Smith next .22 auto is a M&P made in partnership with Walther. SKU's are 122000 for the 10 shot and 222000 for the 12 shot. They have a 4.1" barrel and a thumb safety.
Taurus also now has a 6.5" barrel revolver in 28 gauge!!!??? Nothing out there but some birdshot. Barrel would have to be rifled, so nice big patterns with small shot.
I'm another one no buying the .410 pistols.
CD
Taurus also now has a 6.5" barrel revolver in 28 gauge!!!??? Nothing out there but some birdshot. Barrel would have to be rifled, so nice big patterns with small shot.
I'm another one no buying the .410 pistols.
CD
Stainz
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'It has the IL and MIM parts - I'll never buy one!'
Of course, the first S&W here was the new 625MG in .45 Colt my wife shocked me with - with MIM parts. IL & MIM parts don't bother me. The MG could launch .45 Colts properly - including their shot shells. Then came 'da Judge'... I got to A - B one with my 625MG, .45 Colt-wise, at the range several years back. I can still taste my stomach contents. Nasty. The .410 shotshells were a joke. Shot placement, shot placement,... Da Governator aint for me...
Stainz
Of course, the first S&W here was the new 625MG in .45 Colt my wife shocked me with - with MIM parts. IL & MIM parts don't bother me. The MG could launch .45 Colts properly - including their shot shells. Then came 'da Judge'... I got to A - B one with my 625MG, .45 Colt-wise, at the range several years back. I can still taste my stomach contents. Nasty. The .410 shotshells were a joke. Shot placement, shot placement,... Da Governator aint for me...
Stainz
mc5aw
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Why is it problematic for S&W to try to be competitive in a niche it previously had no presence in? For most purists (like many on this board) this new model may appear unattractive, misguided, etc., but from a business standpoint it appears to be a savvy decision to get a foothold in the Judge demographic. I have heard quite a bit lately from industry people that Taurus quality has plummeted over the last six months, with one local dealer refusing to carry the brand any longer. If this is accurate, then it seems that S&W is positioning itself nicely to capitalize on Taurus' misfortunes. And for S&W enthusiasts like ourselves, shouldn't we be applauding the company for taking chances and being innovative? Personally, I'm much happier seeing my dealer's shelves stocked with a variety of S&Ws rather than Tauruses.
OMG!
If S&W had to copy anything from Taurus, why couldn't they move the lock to the hammer like Taurus revolvers have? (I guess it is still there, I haven't looked at a Taurus revolver in years.)
Wanting to capitalize on market trends is one thing, but isn't this move by S&W rather like Porche coming out with an electric car that will go 40 miles at 30 mph?
If S&W had to copy anything from Taurus, why couldn't they move the lock to the hammer like Taurus revolvers have? (I guess it is still there, I haven't looked at a Taurus revolver in years.)
Wanting to capitalize on market trends is one thing, but isn't this move by S&W rather like Porche coming out with an electric car that will go 40 miles at 30 mph?
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