I shot one last year with my 12 ga Remington 870. Was using some of my lite skeet loads, one oz of #9 shot at 1100 fps. He dissapeared in a cloud of dirt and shot. When the dust calmed down, he came out the other side not hurt. He wondered off into the woods and I wondered off into the house. I decided that next time I'd use bigger shot. It beats explaining to her how I (missed) a big ole marmont. David