Gunshop report

[BE Mike]

Around here gun shops are springing up like flowers. The prices are up everywhere because the demand is sky high. Most of this has to do with hoarding. Some shops seem to be gouging. If everything stays legal during the first term and the economy doesn't improve significantly, I suspect that there will be a lot of AR's, ammo, and reloading components for sale at decent prices in a few years. I've seen a similar thing in the 80's when primers were hard to get and sky high because the rumor was that new primers would have a limited shelf life. Gun folks are the worst at starting and spreading rumors. Its pretty disgusting really. Of course the demand by folks who thought that someday they might like to own a black rifle or high cap handgun and are out there buying while they can might have some basis, especially when you look at the president's past inclinations.

 

[rburg]

Originally posted by BE Mike:
in the 80's when primers were hard to get and sky high because the rumor was that new primers would have a limited shelf life.

I think you're 10 years off. It was the 1990s. During the worst of it, primers cracked over $20 a sleeve of 1000. Then they fell back a little.

 

[Andy Griffith]

Who is to blame if a person pay $77.00 a thousand for primers on a free market auction? I don't think it's the seller.

Some people might not think this is ethical...but I think since there is no real "crisis" all is fair. Now if there was a crisis, then I'd be appalled. Nothing wrong with making a little money when you have something that other people want. I think "Beanie Babies" and those "Tickle Me Elmo" dolls did this for a short time a while back- people paid exorbitant prices for that stuff because they "had to have it right now!"

I have a few cases of primers and since the perceived value that someone else sees in them exceeds my perceived value of them, I see no ethical reason that the value perceived shouldn't be realized...by me.

I wonder how many cases of primer I'd have to sell to get a Registered Magnum?

I'm going to believe that my chances are about 33%, because one of three things will probably happen:

A.) The "rush" to get stuff will finally subside. When is anyone's guess- maybe six months, maybe a year or so...and things will get back to normal, yet people don't start selling off their stock.
B.) Something happens to make it get worse...
Either laws are enacted, stuff is taxed, or a conflict breaks out- anything that makes it harder to get ammunition and components than it already may be.
C.) Supply finally gets caught up to demand, and all the people do start needing some money and they start selling off their stuff and a few deals can be made here and there. Prices on "on the shelf stuff" also stabilize at a more reasonable level.

If there is another scenario, please let me in on it.

If you think about it, this is mainly how post-war America was for a few years...guns and ammunition was very hard to come by for a time, and it took a few years to fill hardware store shelves- those of us who remember correctly.

 

[mroyal98]

Well, the glass may be half empty, but what are all of these fine citizens going to do if the laws don't get more restrictive and they need some money for groceries. That's right, sell, sell, sell and there may be bargains galore.

 

[m1gunner]

One thing going on is some of those doing the hoarding see their purchases as an investment, and it may turn out that way (who knows?).

A little of the same thing happened in the southeast US with livestock hay and an extended drought.

4X5 round bales went as high as $80 a bale, and past history of being a "good customer" got you bumpkis. Tractor trailers came in and bought at the high prices any hay the locals couldn't afford. It got so bad, horses were available free in just about every county from folks that couldn't afford to feed the nags.

In the spring of last year, it seemed every blade of grass in the state was cut and baled in anticipation of those high prices. Then the rains came, and came, and are still coming.

Guys that borrowed money to put up more hay than they would sell in a good year still have most of it, and hay cutting starts again for this year in a little over a month. You can fill trailers with hay now for less than what it cost the farmer to cut and roll it, let alone pay for the use of the land.

But had it not rained, those guys would have hit a good lick.

So, y'all think the 2nd Amendment is going to get rained on?

 

[Andy Griffith]

Originally posted by m1gunner:
So, y'all think the 2nd Amendment is going to get rained on?

It has been a dry spell and we need the rain.

Do you remember when the libs got oh-so-upset when the governor publicly prayed for rain???

 

[m1gunner]

Originally posted by Andy Griffith:

Originally posted by m1gunner:
So, y'all think the 2nd Amendment is going to get rained on?

It has been a dry spell and we need the rain.

Do you remember when the libs got oh-so-upset when the governor publicly prayed for rain???

Yup, Sonny really got them stirred up.

BTW, they are calling for 3" in your area in the next 36 hours, got your floaties ready?

 

[RonJon]

Well, on FOX news this A.M. they had a scientist who is an expert on the sun that said that the sun is gearing up for a MAJOR solar storm that happens every hundred years or so. Such a big one has not been experienced on earth since 1859. This size of solar storm is so intense that it will wipe out ALL electronics!

At that time (1859), it only affected a few telegraph systems and was not such a big deal - But today, it would take out all satellites, power grids, TV's, radio, auto electronics, etc, etc, etc. He said that when it happens it will set back our civilization for about 100 years to get back to where we were!

So anything that is manufactured will come to a halt (including primers and ammo), so unless you want to get back to flint-locks, ye'd best have some stock!

Ron

 

[BE Mike]

Yippee, no more idiots on cell phones driving down the road acting like a drunk! No more major network talking heads live via satellite. I think I'm all over this.

 

[tomf52]

Ruger's MSLP on the LCP is $330. Gander Mountain has them on the front page of their flyer for $349! I paid $269 in a local shop here just recently.

 

[m1gunner]

The solar storm thing can cause problems. I have a number of remote devices installed at customers' properties. Several years ago I had half of them fail in a several day period. I also had teh memory crap out on 2 of my computer4s during the same time.

I thought it a little odd, and just fixed everything.

A month or so later, I read about a big solar flare event that had happened recently and, yup, the dates matched up perfectly with my trouble period. Had it been one device, or two, I never would have paid attention. But there were enough of my failures for me to notice.

Solar events do vary in intensity, and I have no doubt a massive event will give us EPM type destruction.

Now, where did I put that faraday cage???

 

[Andy Griffith]

I guess I need to get one of these:
(I always wanted one)

Or one of these:

Both of which have personality.

 

[RonJ]

I just got back from Dennis Sporting Goods in Fenton Mo. Lots of guns. Ammo shelves were stocked full except for a sign saying .380 Sold Out. Their selection of scopes was more limited than usual.

 

[m1gunner]

Originally posted by Andy Griffith:
I guess I need to get one of these:
(I always wanted one)

Or one of these:

Both of which have personality.

Oh Man, a blonde sorrel, and looks to be a mare mule at that!. I am stuck with a black john mule, but we have come to an understanding.

Along this line of thought, if the "event" does come to pass, mechanical diesels and point ignition systems will work just fine. I may just pick up a couple of distributors for my trucks. Might as well, can't find any primers!