Hateful Eight

[sigp220.45]

I haven't seen a thread on this one yet, so I guess I'll start the ball rolling.

First off, I don't see or not see movies based on stupid things their stars or directors say, but I almost didn't see this because of the incredibly stupid things Tarantino said about cops. I really like most Tarantino movies and I like Kurt Russell, who said a lot of really not-stupid things about guns recently, so I packed up our own party of 8 (wife, me, 3 kids, nephew, daughter's boyfriend, son's girlfriend) off to the movies last night.

Its a good thing it was a civilized theater with reclining seats and booze, because this thing is almost 3 hours long.



I liked it, but that's it. QT must be to the point no one can have him edit his stuff, because he could have whacked a half hour off the front end.

The back half, though, was glorious. Guns, blood, and one scene that sent several folks packing from the theater. No spoilers, but this is a pretty hard R.

The guns were interesting. Its set about 8 years after the Civil War, so the SAAs are possible, though not likely. Plenty of cartridge conversion handguns, a Walker Colt, but the most prominent gun was Kurt Russell's Remington revolving rifle.

I'm glad I saw it, and I'll watch it again when it comes out for home viewing. It has an awesome score by Ennio Morricone and some first rate photography of my new home state of Colorado, though the movie is set in Wyoming and generally takes place inside after the first half hour.

But it wasn't great, in my opinion. I would argue with somebody who said Jackie Brown sucked, but if someone hates this one I'd just nod and say, Yep I see your point.

 

[Rustyt1953]

Seems like a fair and honest assessment. Makes me want to see it.

Like you, I can separate an entertainers political stance from their product.

 

[raljr1]

Wife and I went to see it yesterday. Thumbs down for us. Tarentino must be one sick puppy. The plot line was decent, but the gore was over the top disgusting in my view, but then that's Tarantino for you. I agree that it could have been two hours instead of 2:45.

 

[leswad]

I won't be giving any of my money to Tarantino.

 

[10mmauto]

Thanks for the review.

Before - I was going to go see it.

After - I am very curious and I'm going to go see it.

Thanks.

(Btw, I didn't know there were theaters that sold booze. I've got to find me one of those!)

 

[Beemerguy53]

...Guns, blood, and one scene that sent several folks packing from the theater. No spoilers, but this is a pretty hard R...

Having spent three decades in busy, inner-city fire stations, I saw enough bloodshed and violence to last the rest of my life. For darn sure, I have no desire to watch it for "entertainment"...

I will go to my grave without watching one of Mr. Tarantino's gore-fests...

 

[OMCHamlin]

I won't be giving any of my money to Tarantino.

I'm standing with you on this one, though I'm "glad" the others can separate the product from the producer or his point of view, and continue to see him profit while giving him the spare time he needs to have to be able to promote disdain for law enforcement...

 

[Dave from Pa]

I have seen enough violence in my life don`t need to pay to see more. Most of Tarantinos movies have a sick twist IMO.

 

[Arik]

Thanks for the review! His movies usually run long and are full of dialog

I like his movies and I separate the actor from the characters as well. However I'll probably wait for it to come out on cable. I just don’t feel like going to the movies lately. Not for any political or fearful reason, I just sort of out grew it I guess. The last movie I saw in theaters was last summer when I took my cousin to see the last Avengers movie.

 

[DWalt]

The local newspaper reviewer gave it 4 stars, but that's not necessarily true for all reviewers. It did say that most of the action took place inside some boarding house. I saw a TV review that said it was inside a haberdashery store. I haven't seen it and probably won't.

 

[GatorFarmer]

I used to always go see his movies in the theater. But I just don't have time any more. I never found them particularly gorey. But then again, sit through a couple child births and nothing seems gorey. Shrug.

 

[sigp220.45]

Most of the movie takes place in a remote snowed in store/stage relay named "Minnie's Haberdashery".

The title refers in part to the people forced together by the storm (though there are 9 people to start with) and in part to this being Tarantino's 8th film, which is pointed out in a title card at the beginning.

I, too, have seen plenty of real life violence after 32 years in law enforcement - enough to know this is make-believe.

 

[Art Doc]

1. Don't care for excessive violence.

2. Don't care for Hollywood elitists who decry police violence and gun violence while getting rich glorifying violence in movies.

3. Don't care for Tarantino. Would like to kick him in the groin and punch him in the face. He's been a dick for years and still is. Waste of oxygen. He doesn't need my money.

4. Even if I like the film 3 hours is too long.

5. Samuel L. Jackson recently spouted off BLM mantra so he and Tarantino can hold hands and jump off someplace high...while on fire. Don't need to see any more of him in movies, either.

 

[Drm50]

It takes everyone to run these people out of business. Don't go,
don't give your kids money to go, tell your friends not to go.
Stay home and read a book, soak up some smarts.

 

[S42N8]

Thanks for the review. Sounds like a cable view, then Blu-Ray if worth watching again. Can't say I'd be up for three hours (even with the intermission) without a few adult beverages.

As for the whole off-screen thing, the whole Hollywood thing applies. Most of those folks (Russell notwithstanding) wouldn't know reality from a hole in the ground.

 

[vito]

If you say you separate your thoughts about a director or actor from your paying to see their work is understandable but counterproductive. Would anything Tarantino said ever make it into the news if he was a failed, has been, movie director? The same for Samuel Jackson if he wasn't a major film star. By financially contributing to these vehemently anti-gun or anti-white Hollywood characters you are adding to their credibility as national figures.

Tarantino certainly know how to make interesting movies. His abiity to create a sense of tension without violence of any kind, solely with well written dialogue such as the opening scene in "Inglorious *******s" is a tribute to his skill. I used to enjoy some of his movies (even if they were sometimes hard to watch, such as "Reservoir Dogs") but now that he has spouted off his outrageous opinions on the police, on 2nd Amendment rights and on anything not far left liberal, I will no longer spend my money for his benefit. I also have enjoyed Samuel Jackson, but his latest pronouncement that he wished the killers in San Bernadino had been whites really soured me on him as well.

Bottom line. I will not see this new movie and hope it is a financial failure for everyone involved in the making of this film.

 

[sigp220.45]

There were a couple of gun boo-boos. Cap and ball shooters will get a chuckle out of a scene with Kurt Russell and a bucket, and a pair of 1878 DA Colts show up in a movie Tarantino says is set 6 to 8 years after the end of the Civil War. The year is never stated in the movie, though, and all the Civil War vets are old enough for it to be 1878.

Sam Jackson got first billing, and generally does his usual Sam Jackson thing. Kurt Russell is great but it's not a big stretch for him, either. Walton Goggins is a standout - he manages to avoid being a frontier Boyd Crowder very well. But the real scene stealer is Jennifer Jason Leigh. She's like a Timex.

As for the verboten topic of politics, I don't care. It's takes a lot of people to make a movie. Sit through the credits and you'll see. I'm sure I agree with some and disagree with others. If I waited for a movie to come along where I agreed with everybody involved I'd never see another one. And I like movies too much for that.

As for this one, attendance is not yet mandatory so all are free to see or not see.

 

[Leonard]

I won't be giving any of my money to Tarantino.

If you are sick and tired of these people and their anti cop, anti gun remarks quite funding them, if enough people refused to support these idiots it would effect their pocket book and ultimately their mouths.

 

[calmex]

I will probably see it because any decent or half-decent movie that makes it here to this burg is at least something. I remember when we had no movie-theater here (from 1993 until 1996) and that wasn't much fun.

As to selling booze in the cinema -- I'm for it if there's a "pause button" so I can go to the bathroom. My bladder isn't what it was 30 years ago and I hate sitting there with my legs crossed because I don't want to miss anything but I really have to go to the bathroom.

Perhaps I am the only one who suffers through this type of thing but it is unpleasant. Especially in a 3 hour movie.

 

[sigp220.45]

As to selling booze in the cinema -- I'm for it if there's a "pause button" so I can go to the bathroom. My bladder isn't what it was 30 years ago and I hate sitting there with my legs crossed because I don't want to miss anything but I really have to go to the bathroom.

Perhaps I am the only one who suffers through this type of thing but it is unpleasant. Especially in a 3 hour movie.

I hear ya. This place has big recliners so you stretch your legs out. Between that and the beer I'm spoiled for a regular theater now. I still need to hit the boy's room, though. Luckily in this movie you can just wait for one of the main characters to start talking and you know you've got at least 10 minutes of dialog coming.