mmaher94087
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My guess 32543.
Help with Model 3
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mmaher94087
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I wish my camera would take close-ups like that.
Maybe it can! For the longest time I thought my phone couldn't do that, but there's a scroll in feature that looks like an arc and I can use my thumb to zoom in as much as 5.0 times.
Swirl?
If you look at the design pattern you will notice a atmospheric swirling pattern to the grip color design that projects a very artistic tone. Unlike the splatter appearance of the circa 1878 Red Mottled grip design. I like them both but the swirl is a true eye catcher in my book. Seems to be a post 1880 design but Mark is the authenticator.
Murph
If you look at the design pattern you will notice a atmospheric swirling pattern to the grip color design that projects a very artistic tone. Unlike the splatter appearance of the circa 1878 Red Mottled grip design. I like them both but the swirl is a true eye catcher in my book. Seems to be a post 1880 design but Mark is the authenticator.
Murph
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Both of the stocks seem to have a depression under the diamond. Do you experts have any explanation of what might have caused this? Always looking to learn about the older S&W firearms.
Original "Red Mottled Grips"
In my opinion the grips are original factory "Red Mottled Grips".
The appearance is exactly what I personally would expect to see with grips this old on a gun in this condition.
The wear pattern mentioned is also familiar to me personally. Family history of law enforcement dates back to the late 1800's.
My grandfather had a quick draw rig called a "Clamshell holster" that was actually made here in California. I kick myself often when I think about that rig because it was lost and even as a kid after Grandpa was long gone and playing with it with my older brother, I saw the historical value in keeping that rig.
Anyway, water under the bridge...... Common problem with that old rig was the spring would weaken after many years of field use, the internal lining would wear, and the gun would slip down lower than normal with the grips riding on this spring-loaded nub, resulting in a constant rubbing on the grips. That's exactly the marking that was on my grandfather's 38 revolver. Not quite the same location and his gun had wood stocks, but the same rubbing worn pattern as I remember.
This large frame DA dates to the 1880's. Lacking a logo on the frame. This gun has been there and done that. I like it a lot. I hope the OP gets it so we can see more photos.
Murph
In my opinion the grips are original factory "Red Mottled Grips".
The appearance is exactly what I personally would expect to see with grips this old on a gun in this condition.
The wear pattern mentioned is also familiar to me personally. Family history of law enforcement dates back to the late 1800's.
My grandfather had a quick draw rig called a "Clamshell holster" that was actually made here in California. I kick myself often when I think about that rig because it was lost and even as a kid after Grandpa was long gone and playing with it with my older brother, I saw the historical value in keeping that rig.
Anyway, water under the bridge...... Common problem with that old rig was the spring would weaken after many years of field use, the internal lining would wear, and the gun would slip down lower than normal with the grips riding on this spring-loaded nub, resulting in a constant rubbing on the grips. That's exactly the marking that was on my grandfather's 38 revolver. Not quite the same location and his gun had wood stocks, but the same rubbing worn pattern as I remember.
This large frame DA dates to the 1880's. Lacking a logo on the frame. This gun has been there and done that. I like it a lot. I hope the OP gets it so we can see more photos.
Murph
Boulder350
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I agree with the comments that they are real Smith & Wesson mottled grips. They even look like they may be original to the gun based on their fit. Original finish revolvers that have hard rubber grips that were replaced or changed (solid black or mottled) don't fit to the frame. They either are slightly smaller in some spots or are slightly larger in other spots. Hard rubber stocks shrink very, very little over time, if they have not had extreme temperatures applied to them. Based on the pictures it looks like they are original, but a hands on assessment is necessary.
Here is another thread for a 44 DA with mottled grips
http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-an...action-first-model.html?421751=#post138673367
Great looking revolver.
Here is another thread for a 44 DA with mottled grips
http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-an...action-first-model.html?421751=#post138673367
Great looking revolver.
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mmaher94087
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It's unfortunate that this 30-post thread was piggybacked on another thread as this 'mottled stocks' discussion will be lost once this thread closes. I seriously doubt that I'll remember to look at " Help with Model 3" when searching for mottled stocks.
Mike, not ideal but I believe that you can search using "mottled stocks/grips" and it will bring up odd posts not necessarily titled that way. IIRC you could also search YOUR posts and it will bring up your comments here. Obviously the more you post going forward the further this one will get buried but it's something.
mmaher94087
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Thanks, James. I guess my illegitimate twin brother is more computer illiterate than I am. Seriously, I never thought of searching a phrase as a subject.
Well I finally made the deal. Paid 800 out the door…….everyone in the store says the gun cannot be shot because they believe the cylinder is not locking up in sync with the barrel……now to clean it up and dismantle it…….wish me luck. If I mess it up I can always sell the grips.
Model19man
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Looks like the cylinder serial matches. Nice! It's likely 44 Russian caliber.
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