Hi:
I have observed references to "Hi Point Firearms".
Is this a Manufacturer, type of Firearm, or ??
Thanks,
Jimmy
I have observed references to "Hi Point Firearms".
Is this a Manufacturer, type of Firearm, or ??
Thanks,
Jimmy
Hi Point Firearm
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High point is a fairly new company out of Mansfield, Ohio and they pride themselves in "affordable" firearms. They are big and bulky and I personally would not own one. But, it all depends on personal preference.
Andy Griffith
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High Point Firearms is the the trade name of the Beemiller Corp.
They have absolutely nothing to do with High Point, North Carolina or its inhabitants- other than a few of them might own a High Point.
They are extremely affordable (low priced) firearms that are operated by a simple blow back mechanism, hence the extremely heavy weight they exhibit. Their frames, I think, used to be made of a zinc alloy before they stared making them from polymer.
They do have a lifetime warranty, and, crazy as it sounds actually seem to be fairly reliable by our local gun club gurus who set out to test one of them. I have never fired or tried one myself, so the above may just be hearsay, but it does come from a reliable source.
I personally wouldn't own one, as there are much better things out there.
However, that being said, this pistol does offer something that I can agree with...the principle of freely being able to make something in this price range. I'd say that the company does make a pretty good profit, and if they went public, I'd most certainly purchase some stock in them.
They have absolutely nothing to do with High Point, North Carolina or its inhabitants- other than a few of them might own a High Point.
They are extremely affordable (low priced) firearms that are operated by a simple blow back mechanism, hence the extremely heavy weight they exhibit. Their frames, I think, used to be made of a zinc alloy before they stared making them from polymer.
They do have a lifetime warranty, and, crazy as it sounds actually seem to be fairly reliable by our local gun club gurus who set out to test one of them. I have never fired or tried one myself, so the above may just be hearsay, but it does come from a reliable source.
I personally wouldn't own one, as there are much better things out there.
However, that being said, this pistol does offer something that I can agree with...the principle of freely being able to make something in this price range. I'd say that the company does make a pretty good profit, and if they went public, I'd most certainly purchase some stock in them.
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The Last Standing Knight
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Every Hi-Point pistol I've ever seen fired were unreliable, inaccurate pieces of junk good only for very short range. The 9mm rifle made by them seems to be more reliable.
I would not trust my life with one.
I would not trust my life with one.
clint_lnl
Member
I looked at one, $150.00 for a 40sw and $140.00 for 9mm. the one thing I didn't like was large and didn't feel right in my hand. but they have a lifetime warranty. heres there web site for more info
Hi-Point Firearms
Hi-Point Firearms
sipowicz
Member
Enough said.....
Out West
Member
Zonk!
nwo
Member
Hi-Point actually produces quality firearms at an affordable price. They are ugly, heavy, and they WORK. Plus they come with a LIFETIME warranty, no matter how many owners a particular pistol or carbine has had.
They are certainly not junk guns to be sure. They are affordablg and fun. I was able to fire a couple of them just yesterday at my local range. The .45 version, and the 9mm version. Hundreds of rounds between them without a hiccup.
Hi POINT will even CLEAN your gun for you if you want them to. No charge to you. Except of course shipping. Now THAT'S service!
They are certainly not junk guns to be sure. They are affordablg and fun. I was able to fire a couple of them just yesterday at my local range. The .45 version, and the 9mm version. Hundreds of rounds between them without a hiccup.
Hi POINT will even CLEAN your gun for you if you want them to. No charge to you. Except of course shipping. Now THAT'S service!
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Andy Griffith
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gunnut44
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Very popular in the south side of chicago, Englewood, Pilsen, Back of the Yards, etc. I think the directions say you have to hold them sideways when shooting out of a car window, they make a special holster for carring the gun when wearing pants around your knees, also they come with a coupon for a free 40 0z.
krissylou
Member
That is exactly what a salesperson told my DH when he asked about them. They very quickly got off his list of guns to look at.
duckloads
Member
I'll be the first (and only?) to admit I own one. About 5 years ago, I took one in trade. It's a 9mm carbine. It is very ugly, but have you seen the new Ruger lately? My carbine has taken hundreds of rounds of white box ammo from WalMart whithout any problems. Not a single jam.
About the ugly....the bolt that holds the chamber open? Well, its a bolt. I'm guessing 1/4inch, but I haven't measured it.
About the ugly....the bolt that holds the chamber open? Well, its a bolt. I'm guessing 1/4inch, but I haven't measured it.
DelavanKs
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Warranty
I do like the warranty
Chuck
I do like the warranty
Chuck
One of my buddies had one when I was in the Army. It was an all metal .45 ACP version. Other than being extremely heavy, it shot quite well at 25 yards.
However, takedown for cleaning was a pain. It took 3 of us (two of us Armorer qualified, including myself) to figure out how to properly disassemble and reassemble the thing and we had a manual; which was not very clear (no wonder they will clean it for you!). From memory there were many odd pieces and angles.
It was NOT a well engineered weapon.
However, takedown for cleaning was a pain. It took 3 of us (two of us Armorer qualified, including myself) to figure out how to properly disassemble and reassemble the thing and we had a manual; which was not very clear (no wonder they will clean it for you!). From memory there were many odd pieces and angles.
It was NOT a well engineered weapon.
18Volt 9mm Drill Driver???Enough said.....
sipowicz
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Gutpile Charlie
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Total and complete junk. At the big Tulsa gunshows, you will see the pawn shop operators with multiple stacks of them, twenty high.
I will guarantee you that these are not purchased by sportsmen, hunters, collectors, or target shooters. The baggy pants, hats on backward, underware showing crowd seems to dominate the market for these.
I call them "North Tulsa Specials"!
I will guarantee you that these are not purchased by sportsmen, hunters, collectors, or target shooters. The baggy pants, hats on backward, underware showing crowd seems to dominate the market for these.
I call them "North Tulsa Specials"!
dkees
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For every shooter who simply must spend $1800-$3000 for a handgun there are hundreds who just want a reliable piece to protect themselves and their family.
I own a Baer and a Wilson .45 as well as a Hi-Point and as far as reliability the HP is as good as other two. It eats everything without a burp and has survived many a day under the seat of my truck.
It is certainly ugly and the sights are awful. But I'll tell you this........when the big takeover comes it will be the one in my pack.
I own a Baer and a Wilson .45 as well as a Hi-Point and as far as reliability the HP is as good as other two. It eats everything without a burp and has survived many a day under the seat of my truck.
It is certainly ugly and the sights are awful. But I'll tell you this........when the big takeover comes it will be the one in my pack.
tyusclan
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My son-in-law bought one in .45.
I've shot it several times and actually like it. Yes, it's big and bulky, but I have big hands anyway, so that's not a problem. I probably wouldn't want one for self-defense, but then again they're too big for CCW anyway.
If you want an inexpensive, fun to shoot gun with a great warranty you can't beat it.
I've shot it several times and actually like it. Yes, it's big and bulky, but I have big hands anyway, so that's not a problem. I probably wouldn't want one for self-defense, but then again they're too big for CCW anyway.
If you want an inexpensive, fun to shoot gun with a great warranty you can't beat it.
badam0112
Member
LOL plus they make great paper weights.
A guy that I know has a Hi-Point Carbine in .40 S&W. I looked it over and the first thing that popped into my mind was "what a piece of crap".
This guy deserves to own it though...the guy that sold it to him told him that it shot ".40 caliber and .38 Special".
He believed that and got pissed off at me when I told him that wasn't possible.
This guy deserves to own it though...the guy that sold it to him told him that it shot ".40 caliber and .38 Special".
He believed that and got pissed off at me when I told him that wasn't possible.
gregintenn
Member
I haven't fired one, but they have all the handling characteristics and looks of a cordless drill.
Being pretty hard on cordless drills aren't you?
GatorFarmer
Member
Aside from quasi racial prejudices that some seem to harbor about affordable guns for the poor and very poor alike - there actually are a few points to be aware of if considering purchasing a Hi Point.
Take down - the directions suggest not doing it. Swab it out with a bore snake and send it back when that isn't enough.
Warranty - no call tag service, you foot the bill. But they generally give you a free spare mag for your trouble.
Operation - all Hi Points are blowbacks in calibers not traditionally associated with such
Break in period - some people claim guns that work out of the box, others say 500 rounds or more are needed
Ergonomics - maybe not so good
Carrying with a round in the chamber - probably a bad idea
Shrug. Lots of people are satisfied. I don't have one. That Lorcin .25 that I traded a couple boxes of ammo for... that works fine with FMJs. Go figure. And it's generally considered several notches below a Hi Point.
If you want a pistol caliber carbine, the Hi Point isn't the worst choice. If you want a beater handgun, a Sigma is a better choice if you're at all able to afford the extra money.
Take down - the directions suggest not doing it. Swab it out with a bore snake and send it back when that isn't enough.
Warranty - no call tag service, you foot the bill. But they generally give you a free spare mag for your trouble.
Operation - all Hi Points are blowbacks in calibers not traditionally associated with such
Break in period - some people claim guns that work out of the box, others say 500 rounds or more are needed
Ergonomics - maybe not so good
Carrying with a round in the chamber - probably a bad idea
Shrug. Lots of people are satisfied. I don't have one. That Lorcin .25 that I traded a couple boxes of ammo for... that works fine with FMJs. Go figure. And it's generally considered several notches below a Hi Point.
If you want a pistol caliber carbine, the Hi Point isn't the worst choice. If you want a beater handgun, a Sigma is a better choice if you're at all able to afford the extra money.
EdnAZ
Member
I wouldn't own one but I've seen a few people no longer on this earth partially because of them.
Rock77
Member
Another thought on the High Point
Regarding the High Point here are my observations. Both my son and a good shooting buddy own High Points, two 9mm and one .45 caliber between them. I have shot all of the guns and have yet to observe any misfires or failures of any kind. They all seem to be able to group with combat accuracy and for this type of weapon that is good enough.
My son and my buddy bought them with the express purpose of having an inexpensive firearm that if in the worse case there was a need to protect themselves and would have a gun confiscated that if it never was returned would be a small loss. In California when any firearm that is used in a shooting regardless of how justified will likely result in the permanent loss of that weapon should probably encourage me to purchase one for myself.
My son has some very nice handguns but would sure hate to lose one due to confiscation so decided to try the High Point. It is interesting that my son bought a Sig .45 in early 2008 and has had to return the pistol to Sig twice due to issues with feeding and extraction, it seems to be working now but this is a good example of price not always being the determination of how reliable a weapon may be.
Before everybody jumps the Sig failed with factory ammo, not reloads. The remaining seventy rounds of that ammo fired through my son's Colt Gold Cup and my S&W 645 without a hitch. And by the way, the Smith 645 I own is a very early model that one of my friends bought and sold to me due to issues with the size of the pistol not working with his small hands. I am for the most part a revolver guy but really like the 645 and would not trade it for any other .45 that I have ever shot and handled. It is my opinion that Smith just got it right with the 645; I have never had a stutter with a whole lot of different loads and bullets.
For someone that just wants a handgun for protection and does not want to spend a lot of money the High Point just may be the answer, it goes without saying there are a great many nicer guns out there but most of them start at the $600.00 dollar mark and go way up from there.
Regarding the High Point here are my observations. Both my son and a good shooting buddy own High Points, two 9mm and one .45 caliber between them. I have shot all of the guns and have yet to observe any misfires or failures of any kind. They all seem to be able to group with combat accuracy and for this type of weapon that is good enough.
My son and my buddy bought them with the express purpose of having an inexpensive firearm that if in the worse case there was a need to protect themselves and would have a gun confiscated that if it never was returned would be a small loss. In California when any firearm that is used in a shooting regardless of how justified will likely result in the permanent loss of that weapon should probably encourage me to purchase one for myself.
My son has some very nice handguns but would sure hate to lose one due to confiscation so decided to try the High Point. It is interesting that my son bought a Sig .45 in early 2008 and has had to return the pistol to Sig twice due to issues with feeding and extraction, it seems to be working now but this is a good example of price not always being the determination of how reliable a weapon may be.
Before everybody jumps the Sig failed with factory ammo, not reloads. The remaining seventy rounds of that ammo fired through my son's Colt Gold Cup and my S&W 645 without a hitch. And by the way, the Smith 645 I own is a very early model that one of my friends bought and sold to me due to issues with the size of the pistol not working with his small hands. I am for the most part a revolver guy but really like the 645 and would not trade it for any other .45 that I have ever shot and handled. It is my opinion that Smith just got it right with the 645; I have never had a stutter with a whole lot of different loads and bullets.
For someone that just wants a handgun for protection and does not want to spend a lot of money the High Point just may be the answer, it goes without saying there are a great many nicer guns out there but most of them start at the $600.00 dollar mark and go way up from there.
