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Hi-Point firearms ?
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JJEH
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Buy the best you can afford, if that's a Hi Point for now so be it. Would I rely on a Hi Point to defend my life with? Hell no. But I believe the owner said once that he wants everyone to be able to defend themselves and I respect that.
Deacon KC
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Never shot one of the pistols, but heard a lot of good stuff from people I know and respect about how good their carbines were. Found a used 9mm and it is a doll! Runs like a scalded cat and accurate. Put an ATI stock on it and now it looks awfully good. The house gun for the Missus. Also, consider the carbines have a 10 round mag capacity so they are useful in restrictive states.
RWPBR
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Life is too short for ugly guns or ugly women!
Seriously though my son has a carbine and a pistol in 9mm and loves them.
Seriously though my son has a carbine and a pistol in 9mm and loves them.
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They are ***** but reliable by all accounts. If you can afford $500+ get a Sig or Glock or the like. If you can afford $300+ get a Shield or a J frame. If you can afford $200+ get a SCCY or a LCP or a cheap Kahr. If your budget is under $200 its about the only game in town...
mckenney99
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In the shop that I ran, we did not carry the pistols, as we could not touch the local gunshow table prices. We did sell a few of the carbines and never had any issues with them. I did have 2 customers bring in pistols, that they bought elsewhere, to ship back to HiPoint, (we did UPS shipping). Both had suffered catastrophic failures with the frames cracked or blown into pieces. Both looked like Out Of Battery Failures or horrendously over pressure rounds. In both cases, HiPoint returned new guns to the customers.
I know a couple guys that have the carbines, they are a bit heavy, and limited to 10 round single stack mags but they work.
I have a retired LEO friend who bought a place in Yuma, and we get together in the winter to do a camping trip in the huge gunnery range east of Yuma.
You have to sign in and get a permit at the Yuma Marine base.
They tell you to be alert for smuggling activity, don't leave your keys in the car, etc.
Rick has a GB model Mini-14 that he received upon retirement and he brings it along, and I bring one of my red dot equipped Mini-30s.
For handguns we take something different every time.
One year I wanted to stop and shoot some with my Uberti SA .45. and Rick pulls a High Point .40 out of his pack.
He tried to get it to fire, couldn't and handed it to me.
I tried and thought there must be a safety we didn't know about.
Turns out it just had an ungodly heavy pull, it must have been 20 pounds. He got rid of it soon after the trip.
I have a retired LEO friend who bought a place in Yuma, and we get together in the winter to do a camping trip in the huge gunnery range east of Yuma.
You have to sign in and get a permit at the Yuma Marine base.
They tell you to be alert for smuggling activity, don't leave your keys in the car, etc.
Rick has a GB model Mini-14 that he received upon retirement and he brings it along, and I bring one of my red dot equipped Mini-30s.
For handguns we take something different every time.
One year I wanted to stop and shoot some with my Uberti SA .45. and Rick pulls a High Point .40 out of his pack.
He tried to get it to fire, couldn't and handed it to me.
I tried and thought there must be a safety we didn't know about.
Turns out it just had an ungodly heavy pull, it must have been 20 pounds. He got rid of it soon after the trip.
ancient-one
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I have a 9mm Carbine that has had no problems. There is a company that makes a larger cap mag, 20 rds. IIRC, that Hi-Point approves. I will try to find the name.
Any gun is better than none and Hi Points are cheap for those who can't afford better. But in the words of old uncle Joe " Come on Man" why would guys with quality firearms was time or ammo on such a gun? I hope it's not the if I have to shoot someone the cops won't take my good S&W, ect. If you have to shoot, that means you life is in danger. I think I will carry a quality piece. This reminds me of true story. Retired guy and buddy are going on dream fly fishing trip to Alaska. Guy comes to me to get him a handgun for bear protection. He brought his new custom fly rod to show me. He bragged how much he had in the stick, guides, seat , cork , ect and the new reel, lines. He had hundreds tied up in that outfit. Then we got down to business on gun. I ask how much do you want to spend. Guy says $40-$50 , I'll only be using it once. Needless to say didn't have a bear gun at that price point, but you get the point.
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All evidence points towards them being good, reliable, inexpensive firearms.
That being said, I neither own one, nor do I plan on owning one. Furthermore, I wouldn't really recommend them either, simply because you can get firearms of significantly higher quality on the surplus market for roughly the same price or just a bit higher, so I just can't see recommending a Hi-Point C9 over say a Tokarev, Makarov PM, or some other high quality surplus pistols. Furthermore, you can often find some insanely good values on police trade-in pistols for maybe $99-$125 more than a Hi-Point, but you're getting so much more gun for the money. So I'd sooner recommend that someone save up a bit more money and get a police trade-in M&P or Glock than buy a Hi-Point.
Honestly, even if someone asked me who felt that they needed a firearm immediately, anticipating an imminent threat, I would sooner offer to loan them the difference for a surplus/police trade-in pistol. Heck, I would sooner recommend that they spend their money on a Heritage Arms Rough Rider in .22 Magnum, simply because it's a much nicer gun which breaks down much easier than a Hi-Point.
That being said, they do seem to be reliable pistols, so if absolutely no other option were available, then a Hi-Point would suffice, but even now, in the midst of a Global Pandemic in which folks are panic-buying guns and ammunition like crazy, you can still find other inexpensive guns like the Rough Rider, Taurus G2, Ruger LCP, EC9s, S&W SD, then there are surplus Tokarev pistols, and even police trade-in pistols pop up from time to time.
Oh, and I'm not being a snob either... I carry a Sigma, for crying out loud, which is basically just a step up from a Hi-Point! So I'm not putting down Hi-Point, just saying there are better options for roughly the same price.
Still, if you want a Hi-Point, then by all means get one, it'll do it's job just fine.
That being said, I neither own one, nor do I plan on owning one. Furthermore, I wouldn't really recommend them either, simply because you can get firearms of significantly higher quality on the surplus market for roughly the same price or just a bit higher, so I just can't see recommending a Hi-Point C9 over say a Tokarev, Makarov PM, or some other high quality surplus pistols. Furthermore, you can often find some insanely good values on police trade-in pistols for maybe $99-$125 more than a Hi-Point, but you're getting so much more gun for the money. So I'd sooner recommend that someone save up a bit more money and get a police trade-in M&P or Glock than buy a Hi-Point.
Honestly, even if someone asked me who felt that they needed a firearm immediately, anticipating an imminent threat, I would sooner offer to loan them the difference for a surplus/police trade-in pistol. Heck, I would sooner recommend that they spend their money on a Heritage Arms Rough Rider in .22 Magnum, simply because it's a much nicer gun which breaks down much easier than a Hi-Point.
That being said, they do seem to be reliable pistols, so if absolutely no other option were available, then a Hi-Point would suffice, but even now, in the midst of a Global Pandemic in which folks are panic-buying guns and ammunition like crazy, you can still find other inexpensive guns like the Rough Rider, Taurus G2, Ruger LCP, EC9s, S&W SD, then there are surplus Tokarev pistols, and even police trade-in pistols pop up from time to time.
Oh, and I'm not being a snob either... I carry a Sigma, for crying out loud, which is basically just a step up from a Hi-Point! So I'm not putting down Hi-Point, just saying there are better options for roughly the same price.
Still, if you want a Hi-Point, then by all means get one, it'll do it's job just fine.
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Shooting Padre
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They just work, and work, and work, and work, and work and...
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The most impressive part was when he literally shot the Hi-Point with another gun and it continued to function afterwards, despite the slide being all messed up.
Granted, for all we know, other guns would function just as well if they were shot by another gun, but the fact that the Hi-Point's slide is made of ZAMAK would still make it all the more impressive.
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I understand they are cheap and reliable and they never break down. I also understand they are the choice of, let's say, some unreliable people. THAT's the reason I would never own one.
Buy a few less cartons of cigs or beer and the money you save will buy you a S&W. And then you won't look like just another gang member.
Buy a few less cartons of cigs or beer and the money you save will buy you a S&W. And then you won't look like just another gang member.
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Trust me, life's even shorter if you own nothing but pretty guns...
Because you're liable to have a heart attack if you happen to put so much as a tiny scratch on one of them.
I've owned two Hi-Points. A 9mm pistol that I put a couple thousand rounds through before I got bored with it and sold it for what I paid for it. I had a total of four malfunctions during that time. All four out of one box of "range reloads." With factory ammo it just chugged along. Hit what I was shooting at too.
I also had a 9mm carbine for a short time. I know I took it to the range once with no problems, but I'm just not a rifle guy no matter how often I try. I sold it.
I also had a 9mm carbine for a short time. I know I took it to the range once with no problems, but I'm just not a rifle guy no matter how often I try. I sold it.
