Hickock 45

[gtok1941]

Like I was said could not believe he had never reviewed a Smith automatic pistols. Most 1911's are as heavy as Smith and a ton of other makes of autos have slide mounted safety such as Beretta 92. I love to watch Hickcock45 and have been looking for one of his reviews for a long time for Smith automatic I was beginning to think that they were to old not that he had no interest in them. I am just disappointed because he didn't like them he would never review them. They have been around for a ?on

 

[gtok1941]

Meant to say been around for a long time

 

[shocker]

Let me list the guns I bought after watching Hickok.
10 mm Glock
629 4"
Marlin 1894
PMR 30
69 2.75"
Oh yes, he can shoot. We have a steel range at the gun club and while I can ring the plates Hickok does it at about 3x my speed. Nevermind the long range handgun shots he can do.

Edit- I have no interest in 1911s or HiPowers.

 

[Walkingwolf]

Listing the guns I have bought after watching Hickok45.

 

[Wyatt Burp]

I know he's always saying great things about Glocks and seems to have every version out there. They might be the greatest defense guns in the world and I wouldn't want one. I just like classic older guns, even if I'm handicapping myself. I do have one S&W auto and have flirted with ideas of selling it to finance another sixgun but don't think I ever will.

 

[Walkingwolf]

I know he's always saying great things about Glocks and seems to have every version out there. They might be the greatest defense guns in the world and I wouldn't want one. I just like classic older guns, even if I'm handicapping myself. I do have one S&W auto and have flirted with ideas of selling it to finance another sixgun but don't think I ever will.

I was issued the blue version of the 39, I hated giving that gun back when I quit. As far as the slide safety? It really is not a safety but a decocker, it just happens that the FP must be blocked for it to decock. We carried them with the gun ready to fire, and only used it as a decocker.

 

[SOTVEN]

Here's a tidbit for you....those older Smith autos are not everyone's favorite. I honestly dont like them at all. Back in the day when they were on the store shelves, they sat right next to much cheaper Rugers, much better Sig P series...and the new "plastic" guns that none of us were all that sure of (Glock). They were heavy, have terrible first shot double action triggers, and everytime I picked one up...the grip felt so dumb and cheap...like they cut a bicycle inner tune and stretched it over the grip frame.
Hickok45 gives honest reviews, and he gave HIS review. The man is allowed his opinion. I think he was way too kind. Ya know why those style Smiths are gone, but Sig P series are still around? Because not enough people really wanted them. Law enforcement to this day is still a Glock and Sig world, and there's a reason for it. Again, well made pistols but certainly not the Cadillac of handguns.

Is "Cadillac" here used as possitive or negative means of comparison??? Of course plastic pistols and stamped steel sig p series are still around, because they cost next to nothing to produce, and sell at a premium. Machined smiths cost way more to make, but they were affordable guns. Much smaller profit margin, makes the product unwanted (for manufacture). And lets not forget politics, and the wrong decisions of the British ownership, that had the company drop the 4506 (and many others) and made bicycles and wrenches instead, per Clinton Brady protocol. The other companies played their cards better, not their products. Proof to that? Aren't still LE agencies around the globe with 3rd gems? CHP is just letting go now.

 

[gtok1941]

Back in the day when first Police trade in guns hit gun shows and dealers had tables full dirt cheap Smiths I told my son as we walked passed with out slowing down their not 1911's so not interested. Maybe I was kinda like Hickok45 but I was not making gun reviews except to my son

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[nedlate]

He is a youtube expert, firearms his how he makes money off of viewers. Without youtube, he like a lot of other youtube experts would be looking for jobs.
If you do watch keep in mind this guy makes his spending money playing in his backyard.

Now you have me curious! How much money does he make? Several thousand dollars a month? $80-90,000 a year? He doesn't have to work anymore because he makes so much money from You Tube reviews?!!

Just pulling your leg! How much do you suppose?
Ed

 

[LedFowl]

I came away from his review thinking he found a lot of positives with that gun. He said it was very shootable and well made. He said the sights were dead on. He pointed out how the weight was an advantage in absorbing recoil. He liked the trigger.

And he enjoyed shooting it.

I came away from his review, which I watched before I saw this thread, wanting to buy one!

He honestly said what he used to think about them, and then pointed out the positives. That's how I took it.

 

[jimbo728]

Nobody is perfect.
Jim

 

[SOTVEN]

Listing the guns I have bought after watching Hickok45.

hahahaha!!! good one!

 

[SOTVEN]

I came away from his review thinking he found a lot of positives with that gun. He said it was very shootable and well made. He said the sights were dead on. He pointed out how the weight was an advantage in absorbing recoil. He liked the trigger.

And he enjoyed shooting it.

I came away from his review, which I watched before I saw this thread, wanting to buy one!

He honestly said what he used to think about them, and then pointed out the positives. That's how I took it.

if you like the 40, you should buy one friend!!

 

[Walkingwolf]

Now you have me curious! How much money does he make? Several thousand dollars a month? $80-90,000 a year? He doesn't have to work anymore because he makes so much money from You Tube reviews?!!

Just pulling your leg! How much do you suppose?
Ed

This might help, a youtube video on youtube videos.

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[Arik]

Is "Cadillac" here used as possitive or negative means of comparison??? Of course plastic pistols and stamped steel sig p series are still around, because they cost next to nothing to produce, and sell at a premium. Machined smiths cost way more to make, but they were affordable guns. Much smaller profit margin, makes the product unwanted (for manufacture). And lets not forget politics, and the wrong decisions of the British ownership, that had the company drop the 4506 (and many others) and made bicycles and wrenches instead, per Clinton Brady protocol. The other companies played their cards better, not their products. Proof to that? Aren't still LE agencies around the globe with 3rd gems? CHP is just letting go now.

Sig hasn't done stamped in a long time. The old German ones were stamped. They've been milled since being chambered in 40s&w. Started with the 228 in 40sw. Sig realized that the stamped metal slide didn't hold up well so they made a milled 228 which shortly after became the 229. Afterwards all other models went to milled.

The British company, Tomkins plc sold S&W in 2001. It ad nothing to do with Clinton. Why stop making the 4506 and the 5906 (9mm) in 1999 but continue with the 4006 till 6 years ago.


The 4006 was produced till 2011. Colorado State patrol used them till 2008.

There are agencies still with 3rd gens but that doesn't mean anything. They just keep re issuing old guns. In some parts of the world they're still issuing post WW2 era guns! Kazakhstan was still issuing the P38/P1 in 2007.

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[SOTVEN]

Sig hasn't done stamped in a long time. The old German ones were stamped. They've been milled since being chambered in 40s&w. Started with the 228 in 40sw. Sig realized that the stamped metal slide didn't hold up well so they made a milled 228 which shortly after became the 229. Afterwards all other models went to milled

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You are correct friend. the sig sauer newer slides are machined as opposed to the older ones that only around the muzzle were machined whlie the rest was stamped and welded. However, we are talking about the past here, and I think that up until the end of the 3rd gem production, all sigs had stamped slides. As for their steel framed models, I think they are still stamped and welded. I might be wrong about the newer production though, as I consider them the least ergonomic pistols ever designed and built, so I do not follow their news. Oh, and also, did s&w change their slide manufacturing on their 40 because it di not hold up well? my point exactly!

 

[Arik]

You are correct friend. the sig sauer newer slides are machined as opposed to the older ones that only around the muzzle were machined whlie the rest was stamped and welded. However, we are talking about the past here, and I think that up until the end of the 3rd gem production, all sigs had stamped slides. As for their steel framed models, I think they are still stamped and welded. I might be wrong about the newer production though, as I consider them the least ergonomic pistols ever designed and built, so I do not follow their news. Oh, and also, did s&w change their slide manufacturing on their 40 because it di not hold up well? my point exactly!

Milled Sig 229 was introduced in 1992

Since Sig doesn't import anymore (rarely) the European ones could still be stamped....I don't know. However, US has been versions have been milled for a long time now

The difference was that the 228 was designed for the 9. And it not that it wasn't capable of handling the 40, because originally that want it was. The problem was that it had faster wear

Many companies changed manufacturing to accommodate the 40 and the 10 as well. Many companies also changed manufacturing when going from the 380 to a 9.
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[SOTVEN]

just the 229? just one of their models. while s&w was putting out about how many milled models at the same time in 1992? also, i heard that the model 52 went out of production because the milling machine that was involved in making it broke, and was too expensive to fix. if that is true indeed, i do not expect shields to stop being made because the molten plastic injector broke. all wors are fought over money, and all business are is about cost

 

[Richochet]

I owned one and sold it!

I once owned a Performance Center 4006 years ago and I never grew fond of it. in fact, for me it was uncomfortable to shoot. (I am left handed) So, it was sold. I enjoy Hickock45's authenticity.
I will continue to enjoy his channel and respect his views. I don't have to like or agree with anyone just to learn something useful.

 

[gtok1941]

I like the Smith CHP 4006 TSW and I did buy one. It's in perfect condition no scratches, run marks or holster wear. Looks unissued.

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[1775usmarine]

I would say that his reviews are pretty honest. I know he is a glock fanboy, but I don't get the feeling from him as some do if a manufacture gives them a gun that they try to push you to buy. I believe he does get his firearms from viewers and LGS instead of from the factory to try out. Also the place where he got the 4006 is only 20 miles away from me.

 

[Valmet]

I've enjoyed his vids for years for general info, I never go into it assuming I'm going to get a wealth of in-depth info. He presents as a regular shooter/gun guy which is appealing, not some goofy-tacticool/operator type (Yaeger or Nutnfancy).

 

[MJFlores]

He is a youtube expert, firearms his how he makes money off of viewers. Without youtube, he like a lot of other youtube experts would be looking for jobs.

I know this is going to upset his followers, but his opinion is worth what you pay for it. It should be considered entertainment, if not entertained by his opinion then don't watch. If you do watch keep in mind this guy makes his spending money playing in his backyard.

You understand what Youtube did, and what he always did with his channel. Youtube doesn't pay him a dime for his videos...they've demonetized all the firearm channels. He also never has ads on his channel, which is how you make money. Federal pays him in ammo, Bud's in guns, and Sonoran Desert Institute...that's Zeke's deal, he's friend of John's and liekly doesn't pay them a dime. Greg isn't rolling in dough due to videos...he's was a smart investor and did things right financially. The small amount of actual money that comes from videos just buys more guns for his own collection. He's always very certain to say that he's not an expert at anything...but I disagree, he's an expert in keeping up other's interests in shooting, in supplying great info to the shooting community, giving a clean and decent channel to all of us, and providing great entertainment to us all.

 

[SuperGoat]

I have a 4006. It was originally my Mother-in-Law's but once I pulled the trigger for the first time I looked over at my husband and told him this gun is mine now. I actually love this gun and .40 has become one of my favorite calibers.

 

[Bakebfr480]

I've never fired any of them either. Also, I've never fired a Glock!

 

[GaryS]

I don't know if it's true about the Model 52, but I remember seeing the machine that was used to machine a part of the Model 19 frame sitting in a corner. The story was that the machine was the reason that Model 19 frames couldn't be replaced if they suffered from flame cutting.

That was on a tour back in 2006 (I think).

Everything, except barrel boring, is now done on CNC machines. At the time of my last visit, S&W had more than 100 CNC machines of various ages. We were told that it was the most on the east coast.

Since they make 1911s, with forged and machined frames, slides, and other parts, they could make 3rd Gens. The problem is that there is a big market for 1911s, but not for 3rd Gens. They still make revolvers using the forge/machine method and crank out a ton of J frames. Again, there is a demand.

Gary

just the 229? just one of their models. while s&w was putting out about how many milled models at the same time in 1992? also, i heard that the model 52 went out of production because the milling machine that was involved in making it broke, and was too expensive to fix. if that is true indeed, i do not expect shields to stop being made because the molten plastic injector broke. all wors are fought over money, and all business are is about cost

 

[kbm6893]

I enjoy Hickcok45's videos, but he has definitely sold out. Instead of shooting his reloads like he used to, he has boxes of free ammo sent to him. Can't start a video without mentioning Buds Gunshop.

As for his negatives, heavier than more modern weapons? Yes. So is the 1911's he has several of and sings the praises to. Not to mention no heavier than an L frame 686.

Holds less ammo? Yes, as do 1911's compared to more
Modern full size .45's.

Ease of takedown? He clearly didn't know how to. I field strip mine with no effort. And they're way easier to field strip than a 1911.

For all his negatives, he sure showed how somebody who can shoot can handle one.

 

[Mike SC Hunter]

If we all liked the same things..........The world would be a BORING place.........

 

[ElToro]

The Smith and Ruger autos from the 80s and 90s both always seems so heavy and clunky and not aesthetically pleasing. So I never bought one. But no worries, millions of others did. I have plenty of Glocks hi powers 1911's and sigs to make up the difference.

I have a client that has a youtube channel And he has several videos with views into the 10's of millions. Not his full time job. But he also has serious professional quality filming and they are very funny. He estimated he makes about $1,000 per million views. So if your pumping out 2 or 3 videos a Week AND you have a huge subscriber base you can make a living at it. Of course they are free to watch. You just have to endure the commercials just like tv. That's how YouTube and the channnel owners they make their money.

 

[nocents]

I enjoy Hickcok45's videos, but he has definitely sold out. Instead of shooting his reloads like he used to, he has boxes of free ammo sent to him. Can't start a video without mentioning Buds Gunshop.

.............."sold out"???......Is that what it is called now??