one eye joe US Veteran Joined Dec 31, 2008 Messages 4,173 Reaction score 4,001 Location New England Dec 13, 2011 #21 This is what I use in my CCW snubbies. The NYC PD uses them also..........Speer Gold Dot .38 Special +P 135 gr Ammo Test - YouTube
This is what I use in my CCW snubbies. The NYC PD uses them also..........Speer Gold Dot .38 Special +P 135 gr Ammo Test - YouTube
oldafsp US Veteran Joined Oct 31, 2011 Messages 1,100 Reaction score 1,207 Location Tennessee Dec 14, 2011 #22 I guess being from the time of dinosaurs, I have always relied on the time proven .38 spc 158gr LSWCHP +P. This round has put more bad guys away than any other. A master reloader friend of mine loaded a box of these to 21,000 psi...all I can say is WOW out of a 4 inch Model 10. Little tough in a j frame, so the standard +P is just fine. I have just read and seen too many inconsistant test results to change my mind. In a perfect world, we could have the perfect self defense round. And in a gunfight, I would much rather have that 12 ga loaded with 00 buck. Kinda hard to carry around all day...
I guess being from the time of dinosaurs, I have always relied on the time proven .38 spc 158gr LSWCHP +P. This round has put more bad guys away than any other. A master reloader friend of mine loaded a box of these to 21,000 psi...all I can say is WOW out of a 4 inch Model 10. Little tough in a j frame, so the standard +P is just fine. I have just read and seen too many inconsistant test results to change my mind. In a perfect world, we could have the perfect self defense round. And in a gunfight, I would much rather have that 12 ga loaded with 00 buck. Kinda hard to carry around all day...
SMSgt Member Joined Jul 31, 2010 Messages 7,731 Reaction score 11,505 Location Florida Dec 14, 2011 #23 If you punch a hole (or two) in the ticker, it doesn't matter much whether it expands or not.