Home defense

[cmort666]

The phone, to call 911. Our suburban police department has a very fast response time. Other than that, my 640 would suffice.

You should call the police, since that makes you the OFFICIAL victim.

Other than that, in a REAL deadly force situation, they're unlikely to arrive in time to do anything besides collect statements and evidence.

They're not Doctor Who. They don't drive TARDISes and can't keep doing it over until they get there in time.

If ANYBODY protects you, it's going to be YOU.

 

[Ranger514]

With the exception of the Gov. or Judge, I have all bases covered. My primary choice would be whatever is at hand, or meets the needs of the particular situation best. Right now, I have snubby Mod. 60 on my hip, which alternates with a Sig P290 RS as my daily carry. It's kinda hard to carry a shotgun or carbine around all day, but they stand ready for use to protect my home and family, should the need arise.

 

[JCFindley]

If you decide to carry on the beach I found this fits nicely in a bathing suit.

And yes, I do carry on the beach these days. It also tends to be what I carry a lot of the time when not at the beach. Yeah, I know a 22 mag with a one inch barrel is not the best SD gun but it is better than any of them that are not on me at the time.

I go with something else, anything else for that matter, if I have other options.

 

[Ytcoinshooter]

I keep a couple 300 lumen tactical flashlights handy (one at bedside). My pistols (so far) are all semi auto, one has a laser. Pulling out a Ruger mini 14 (those rounds will penetrate excessively) if we were surprised while we are asleep (worst scenario) isn't practical. No "scatter" guns owned by us and long arms can be unwieldy at times.

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Going to get popcorn

He said he's not going to provide me the courtesy of his extensive tactical tutoring. I'm thinking Gecko45.

 

[Arik]

He said he's not going to provide me the courtesy of his extensive tactical tutoring. I'm thinking Gecko45.

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[steelslaver]

Here you go the crime rates for my town. Ranked the 6th safest city in Montana.

Violent Crimes per 1,000: 2.88
Property Crimes per 1,000: 13.73\

And around here even domestic violence is a considered a violent crime
property crime covers vandalism, etc

The last murder here was in 1997.

 

[Wise_A]

Check the police blotter of your "safe city" sometime. Bad guys take their act on the road. If you want to score good stuff, you gotta go where the good stuff is.

Ironically, the only bad-going-to-worse situation I've been involved in was with an otherwise law-abiding citizen roughly three times my age at the time. Guy escalated a simple misunderstanding, proceeded to attempt to assault me. I moved to full "you don't want to do this" mode, and was able to intimidate the fight out of him (I'm not a big guy). The entire time, I was watching his hands. I figured I couldn't permit him to reach into his pockets or something.

CCW is like wearing your seatbelt. Most people are never going to need it. The ones that do are very glad that they have it.

 

[Muss Muggins]

. . . And around here even domestic violence is a considered a violent crime . . .

Pretty sure it's that way everywhere . . .

 

[cmort666]

CCW is like wearing your seatbelt. Most people are never going to need it. The ones that do are very glad that they have it.

Most people will never need a gun.

Those who do, will need it VERY badly.

The ones do who DON'T have one WHEN they need it very badly, often don't live to tell the tale.

 

[Old TexMex]

Most people will never need a gun.

Those who do, will need it VERY badly.

The ones do who DON'T have one WHEN they need it very badly, often don't live to tell the tale.

True statement.
I'd add that many of the times when someone needs one badly and has one, they don't have to use it.....and we never hear about it!

 

[cmort666]

True statement.
I'd add that many of the times when someone needs one badly and has one, they don't have to use it.....and we never hear about it!

The last time I used a firearm for self-defense, no shots were fired. The person trying to force us off the road, while not having enough sense to NOT try to force us off the road, had sense enough to take off when he saw an HK-93 pointed at him.

 

[Protected One]

Yep, you're following me. I've lived in a safe area for many years, decades actually, and never had a need to carry. And I'm not paranoid. I know that 99.9% (US DOJ crime stats) of people in America have no desire to kill me. But if you see it differently, carry what you think you're gonna need. There are no street gangs where I live. The sheriff is all over bad guys coming in to our city.

the .1% of killers generally congregate in recognized geographical locations. Hence, I don't go into areas bangers claim. They've claimed it, they can have it.

Times are changing. Black Panthers have advocated coming into safe suburbs to kill cops. Now that's a huge change. Hence, they're forcing me to adapt to their aggressive actions.

For some reason you thought it cute to write that, "...you may need to take out a sniper," which is inflammatory and provoking of an appropriate response. Trust me, it does not make you a trained killer. However, because it's the way I roll, I'll let it slide. Believe me, I'd know what he hell I'd be doing. If you know tactical advantages (if you did, you probably wouldn't have posted your replay) you'd of recognized the essence of my post. Thanks to taxpayers including you, I could give you and extensive tutoring on defensive handgun tactics. But I'm ain't gonna accommodate you.

Gun magazines are entertainment. Don't read 'em. They'll wrap your mind with BS that's more harm than good.

I THINK what he was getting at is that "statistically" you're more likely to have a self-defense encounter - even in your safe neighborhood, than you are to encounter a sniper. Yet you see no need to prepare for that, but DO see the need to prepare for a sniper encounter?

 

[Old TexMex]

I THINK what he was getting at is that "statistically" you're more likely to have a self-defense encounter - even in your safe neighborhood, than you are to encounter a sniper. Yet you see no need to prepare for that, but DO see the need to prepare for a sniper encounter?

That there is what we call a brilliant command of the obvious!

I'm glad you took the time to explain that. I hope it soaks in to the less perceptive.

 

[Old TexMex]

The last time I used a firearm for self-defense, no shots were fired. The person trying to force us off the road, while not having enough sense to NOT try to force us off the road, had sense enough to take off when he saw an HK-93 pointed at him.

I can't tell you the number of times that has worked for me in "more southern" climes. But it's a double figure....

 

[57jeeper]

My 625 JM is my solution to uninvited guests in the night. Loaded with .45 ACP +P hollow points and having 2 moon clips handy and I feel better armed than if I was trying to operate my 1911's, Glocks, etc., in the middle of the night. There's nothing more instinctive than a DA revolver, the last thing I would want to deal with with was a FTF/FTE at 3:00 AM in a panic situation. I have long guns, AR's, Mini-14, Mossburg 500, M-1's, etc, but I worry about over penetration and having an intruder grabbing the barrel from behind a doorway. Just MHO.

 

[Riverkilt]

Live an apartment so penetration is an issue. I wanted a Governor but couldn't find one - found a Taurus Judge and what the heck, bought it. THEN found the Governor and bought it too.

Bedside defense is now 11 rounds of self-defense .410 in the Governor and the Judge. If I ever need them figure after 11 rounds of .410 things will be sorted out well enough for automatic follow up.

Few weeks ago someone was beating on my door at 0200. Got up and went outside with the Governor at my side. As soon as the kids in the car at the curb saw it they dug out like they were in a drag race. The Governor LOOKS like a GUN!

 

[Kframerbluvr]

Whatever handgun I wore that day does HD duty that night, still on the belt on the pants next to the bed. Usually a .40 Glock of some sort. Tonight it is my newly issued Gen 4 G23.

 

[P-229]

I THINK what he was getting at is that "statistically" you're more likely to have a self-defense encounter - even in your safe neighborhood, than you are to encounter a sniper. Yet you see no need to prepare for that, but DO see the need to prepare for a sniper encounter?

Protected One,

Somewhere contained within your post is discombobulated logic. I never wrote that that I was going to prepare for a sniper, which is killing from a concealed place not conditional of distance. I did write that were I going to carry a handgun, it would probably be because of recent targeting of cops. I never carry at home. I'm not paranoid. I do not believe anyone is out to get me. I do not keep a loaded handgun in my home. And I don't fear marauders breaking into my home. Now if conditions were to change, I'd adjust accordingly.

Outside of my home is less controllable. I can control where I go. I cannot control who'll go there as well. But I'm not paranoid of a takeover of places I do frequent. And, God forbid, were a takeover to occur at a business where I might be, I'd be a damned good witness, even if I were Rambo. It's wise to keep in mind that were you to go full-on Rambo, your actions could initiate a gunfight that could cause the death of another.

The remarkable difference is that Black Panthers, who've always have targeted police officers or murder, had recently advised their comrades in carnage to into "white" suburbs to murder cops. Hence it is direct targeting of a specific class of people for whom they hold extreme prejudice.

I kinda think that you're resorting to less than acceptable tactics in effort to assert some nebulous and illusory tactical superiority. If you're Rambo trained, I'm good. But be careful. Rambo types usually wind up in jail. And many have psychotic episodes. Were I you, I'd relax and enjoy life, unless, of course, you live in a war zone, in which case I'd recommend moving or practicing your Rambo skills.

I'm good with your doing what's right for you as long as what's right for you does not place my life in jeopardy. De-escalation beats gunfights hands down.

 

[P-229]

If you decide to carry on the beach I found this fits nicely in a bathing suit.

And yes, I do carry on the beach these days. It also tends to be what I carry a lot of the time when not at the beach. Yeah, I know a 22 mag with a one inch barrel is not the best SD gun but it is better than any of them that are not on me at the time.

I go with something else, anything else for that matter, if I have other options.

Thanks.

I can't tell you the last time I've carried a gun on my person. The sheriff does a damned good job of keeping dirtbags outta Dodge, which ain't where I live. Anyway, I think that the sheriff does such an excellent job at keeping my city and beach cities close to crime free, that every once in a while they oughta bus in LA bangers down here to keep deputies in practice. Heck, if an LA banger were spotted down here, they'd be a dozen units all over him.

Now were I to pack heat in my beach shorts, those very hot lookin' chicks in tiny bikinis that don't cover imaginations might think they're gettin' to me, which ain't always necessarily true. So I leave my gun at home. That way I can ride waves if the ocean swells are decent, and not sport a swell that might not be.

My physician wants me to swim more often (orthopedic injuries). She didn't say that I can't surf, and what she don't know will hurt only me.

Remember, that there is only one known way of surviving a gunfight: don't get in one. We call that gunfighting rule one. Gun fighting rule two is don't get shot.