Homeless shower stations.

[jeffrefrig]

I read in the local rag yesterday that our local leaders have proposed building stations for showering, toilets, etc. near some of the homeless camps around the city. They will eventually have minor healthcare and social services to help them find more permanent dwellings. Cost is estimated at $50,000 apiece. Now, just last week they closed up one of the encampments down town for some reason. Every one of these homeless have different reasons why they are where they are, so I won't judge them, but the ones brave enough to get near my car at the panhandlers' intersections have to go through my Angel.
I suppose it's a nice gesture, but Dad told me back in his younger days, the hobos & bums took the box cars going South when winter was upon them. Even the Robins are smart enough for that move. They now have needles available for the junkies and I'm pretty sure there's a test for fentanyl they're using now, too.
After years of the wannabe gang bangers ruining downtown, they're gonna build a police substation downtown, too.
I think this is another way to spend the federal relief money from that coved thing...use it or lose it.
There are no more words to use without getting dinged!

 

[GypsmJim]

I realize that 12 years of Catlick school gave me a bit of naivety, but I guess I grew up gradually over the next 60 years.

And here I sit today, remembering about the events that happened on this day.

Nevertheless, twenty years ago if you had predicted the state of affairs we are in today, I would not have believed you.

 

[NYlakesider]

I read in the local rag yesterday that our local leaders have proposed building stations for showering, toilets, etc. near some of the homeless camps around the city. They will eventually have minor healthcare and social services to help them find more permanent dwellings. Cost is estimated at $50,000 apiece. Now, just last week they closed up one of the encampments down town for some reason. Every one of these homeless have different reasons why they are where they are, so I won't judge them, but the ones brave enough to get near my car at the panhandlers' intersections have to go through my Angel.
I suppose it's a nice gesture, but Dad told me back in his younger days, the hobos & bums took the box cars going South when winter was upon them. Even the Robins are smart enough for that move. They now have needles available for the junkies and I'm pretty sure there's a test for fentanyl they're using now, too.
After years of the wannabe gang bangers ruining downtown, they're gonna build a police substation downtown, too.
I think this is another way to spend the federal relief money from that coved thing...use it or lose it.
There are no more words to use without getting dinged!

As a retired pipefitter and fixed up many places where the pipe's are just ripped out of the wall and taken to the scrapyard for pennies on the dollar, its quite possible that things will get very interesting. A set up like this will also have the electric wires taken. Yes stuff like this does happen!

 

[llowry61]

I think all of the aid provided today somewhat enables the problem. I will leave it at that. Social Safety nets can only do so much.

 

[Autonomous]

Yet we're reminded that feeding wild animals creates dependent animals that can't fend for themselves and/or become dangerous when they demand reparations/handouts.

 

[S42N8]

<must…not…alrighty then.>

I would like to be PC, but that dang reality thing keeps coming back like a stray critter queueing up for the daily… aaaand the tautology.

 

[yaktamer]

In the old days these were called "clouds."

 

[CH4]

I don’t think taxpayers should even chip in for a garden hose. As a huge supporter of Darwin, I say let nature take its natural course. Or they can save up for a ticket to France.

 

[Ivan the Butcher]

From 2008 to 2012 I worked for a Non-Profit that provided housing to the homeless. There are two basic philosophies on this kind of social work:
1) come as you are
2) come, but start improving

My employer was of the first bent! The clients, were not required to show improvement. Of the 1600 units over 4 years, I only saw 1 who improved and became a member of regular society again!

In warm weather they often preferred sleeping at one of the camps or under a bridge, because those were their "peeps" and when the assistance checks came out, that is where the best parties were!

In cool weather, they only paid their utility bills until the State imposed moratorium on shut offs went into effect!

I have heard that Indianapolis passes bus tickets to the Deep South this time of year.

Ivan

 

[yaktamer]

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I have heard that Indianapolis passes bus tickets to the Deep South this time of year.

Ivan

I believe that's referred to as "Greyhound Therapy."

 

[Telecaster]

Urban outdoorsmen line the streets downtown here. Until God tells me exactly what to do about them, they are not my problem. Heck, maybe they’re the smart ones and we’re the dummies.

 

[Puller]

Some of these cities are just . . .

 

[Rustyt1953]

It shouldn't fall to our already heavy tax dollars. It should fall to our conscience.

And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

 

[pasound]

My uncle (mother's younger brother) was a WWII vet and PTSD survivor. Battle of the Bulge. Frozen feet, lost toes. Extreme wanderlust after he came home. There was no real VA assistance after WWII. He would show up occasionally at our door when I was a child. Dad would give him money for a bus ticket back home to Kentucky, and he'd jump a train instead. He ended up at a Florida winter circus camp, and became a roadie (carney) for circuses for years. Yet when the season ended, he'd still jump trains and ride all over the country until the tour season started again. Homeless? Yes. Unhappy? I'll never know. Mother said I look a lot like him. But for circunstance, any of us could have been my Uncle Earl.

 

[Pete99004]

I read in the local rag yesterday that our local leaders have proposed building stations for showering, toilets, etc. near some of the homeless camps around the city. They will eventually have minor healthcare and social services to help them find more permanent dwellings. Cost is estimated at $50,000 apiece. Now, just last week they closed up one of the encampments down town for some reason. Every one of these homeless have different reasons why they are where they are, so I won't judge them, but the ones brave enough to get near my car at the panhandlers' intersections have to go through my Angel.
I suppose it's a nice gesture, but Dad told me back in his younger days, the hobos & bums took the box cars going South when winter was upon them. Even the Robins are smart enough for that move. They now have needles available for the junkies and I'm pretty sure there's a test for fentanyl they're using now, too.
After years of the wannabe gang bangers ruining downtown, they're gonna build a police substation downtown, too.
I think this is another way to spend the federal relief money from that coved thing...use it or lose it.
There are no more words to use without getting dinged!

Gee, I hope they will include WIFI.

I heard online that the mayor of New York City said he will take all.....maybe they could bus them there?

Pete99004

 

[Mike SC Hunter]

It shouldn't fall to our already heavy tax dollars. It should fall to our conscience.

And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

You can't fix something or someone.....THAT DOESN'T WANT TO BE FIXED.

 

[arjay]

I’m an atheist but I do believe in being humane to the lost

 

[Harrison]

Urban outdoorsmen line the streets downtown here. Until God tells me exactly what to do about them, they are not my problem. Heck, maybe they’re the smart ones and we’re the dummies.

Back in the late 1980s we called them urban nomads.

 

[StrawHat]

You can't fix something or someone.....THAT DOESN'T WANT TO BE FIXED.

You may not be able to fix them but you should at least help them.

Kevin

 

[NFrameFred]

I think all of the aid provided today somewhat enables the problem. I will leave it at that. Social Safety nets can only do so much.

The problem with the safety nets is they are created mostly by goodhearted people with the best of intentions for people whom, a great many of, have given up any pretense of caring about doing better for themselves if they ever did to begin with it. Barring mental illness and addiction (the majority of cases I believe) I still like to think that in this country if you want it and are willing to work for it there are folks extending a hand to help you up; too many never progress past the point of being comfortable letting someone else take care of them. Those same "goodhearted people" all too often fail to require any accountability of those with their hands out. Let's just be brutally honest - there are plenty of the folks that are "riding the system" with no intention of ever working for it though they're physically able.
Like it or not, we are our brother's keeper. I long ago struggled to take the view that what I give for the right reason is credited to my ledger, regardless if it is misused, abused or wasted on whoever receives it. I gave it for the right reason . . . they are ultimately accountable for what they do with it - if not in this life then the next.