I'm curious to find out what the good shooters here consider really good accuracy from an out of the box revolver with no modifications other than a red dot or scope with the right load combination of course. Mainly in the 50-100 yard range. I've spent the last several months working up different loads for my 6 & 8" 686 revolvers and just wondering if I'm getting anywhere close to where the experts would be satisfied. Even off a rest, my over 60 eyes and hands aren't what they were 30 years ago but I've been able to get accuracy that I didn't think I would ever see. I can consistently ring a 4" round metal plate at 80 yards. That's the limit to my backyard range. That's using a red dot with no magnification. I certainly would like to get better, but not sure what is possible without making major modifications to the guns. Most of the loads I shoot are coated lead 130-158 gr loaded around 900-1000fps but I can get that kind of accuracy going full bore magnum as well but not going to spend my afternoon popping off 200 rounds of loaded to the hilt magnums. What do you expert marksmen find acceptable?