How accurate is really accurate

Ironically it seems guys like this will be the only one in camp to kill a deer! Many years ago I witnessed (or wouldn’t believe it) a hunter in our group killed a walking deer at 200+ yards with a Renington 743 auto. Hit the deer perfectly behind the shoulder and dropped it in its tracks. Later that day we decided to have a little shooting competition back at camp. He could not hit a pie plate at 100 yards! His scope was so far out he was shooting about 6” off, but he was the one with the meat.

Better lucky than good!
 
ln Feb 1944 US Battliships New Jersey and lowa damaged the Japanese

destroyer Nowaki @ 35,70yds with their 16 inch guns.. lts the longest

shot on record. More amazing still, both shooter AND target were moving

at high speed. Those sixteen inch guns on New Jersey and lowa were true

M A G N U M S developing 303 MILLION foot pounds of energy!!!
 
Bench is too easy....

My 8" 686 with 2X Leupold shoots 4" off a rest on a 100yd target all day, any day with 158grSP hunting loads.


Put it in the hands of the average offhand shooter I see at the range might get 4" at 5 yds. Shooting offhand is testing the shooter, not the equipment.

I don't get much satisfaction from shooting off a bench. I figure whatever I can do offhand would only improve with a bench rest. There's a point where the equipment becomes more of a factor.
 
The Russian Toz 35 Free Pistol (single shot .22LR, with an approximately one ounce trigger pull - adjustable all the way up to one pound) can place 10 rounds into a 1/2" area at 50 yards.

I consider that insanely great accuracy, never achievable in my hands.

Any of the russian olympic pistols are well worth the $$$.
10m .177 air pistol
25m sport pistol
50m free pistol
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I'm not a "good" shooter as the op put it by any means.

Accuracy with any firearm ='s hitting what your aiming at. Used to shoot bowling pins @ 100yds. Same rules as the standard 25ft game, just 100 yds. Shoot another version of bowling pins now, we setup 12ga shotgun shells on the bowling pin table and shoot them instead of bowling pins @ 50ft instead of the standard 25ft. A couple of different loads I use for the 50ft game.


Rifle smallbore silhouettes:
Typically shot @ 100yds with rifles standing/offhand. I like to go up against the rifles with a contender setup with a 4-12 rifle scope standing using a modified taco hold. A 100yd ram shot offhand with the contender pictured below.
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How accurate is accurate?
 
First, let me say that hitting a 4” disc consistently at 80 yds with a red dot is excellent accuracy in my opinion. I’m not sure that I could even see that target at 80 yds anymore. Three inches or better at 100 yds is outstanding with a revolver.

Here are some examples of what I consider good accuracy for "field revolvers" using open sights, red dot, and scopes. All are rested. I’m sure some of these guns would should better with someone else doing the shooting. With the heavier guns, I consider 2 and 3 shot groups adequate to verify POI.

4” M617 w/Leupold 4x, rested at 100 yds

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44 Magnum open sights, rested at 100 yds
M69 4 ¼” upper right diagonal
M629 6” Classic DX lower circled group
Everything else off hand with M69

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M69 2.75” opend sights rested on range bag at 50 yds

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6” Freedom Arms .454, sighting in J Point reddot, rested 50 yds (fall of 2017)

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5” Custom Freedom Arms 500 JRH, 4x Leupold, rested on tonneau of pickup, 52 yds, 4 different loads 370gr thru 440gr.

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One last pic – Custom 500 JRH

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FWIW,

Paul
 
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