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armympwjrk
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What model 15-22 is this?
That's my opinion
How does the 15-22 compare to the colt m-4 22 carbine or gsg-5?
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CrazyFingers
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That's a standard 15-22 with custom replacement of the barrel nut and hand guards, with a screw-on FSP/gas block attached to the barrel. One of these days I'm going to do the same, as I really prefer this look over the pseudo-freefloat look that S&W ships, and it would match my 5.56 much better.
However, the 15-22's factory configuration is a perfectly functional setup, and I've got far too many other things to blow time and money on right now.
(It still looks badass Brett...
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However, the 15-22's factory configuration is a perfectly functional setup, and I've got far too many other things to blow time and money on right now.
(It still looks badass Brett...
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crracer_712
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I love the light weight of my 15-22, that means when I added all my gizmos, it wasn't overly heavy. Has a true last shot hold open, trouble free, what issues I've had I attributed to the winchester 333 and golden bullets I tried.
My son has the Sig 522, very nice, shoots great. Seems to be a little more ammo sensative, we have moved past the winchester 333, but occasionally he'll have an issue with federal 550, the 15-22 does not. The Sig has a last shot hold open, but the mag is what holds it open, so when you drop the mag, the bolt goes shut. The mags on the Sig are a bear to load, so we got a couple of Black dog load assists for them, which I feel are essential for the 522 magazines.
If I had bought the Sig first, I'd be just as happy with it, but since I have the 15-22, I wouldn't trade it for the Sig. I too liked the Colt, at the time, it was quite a bit higher at the shows I was going to, then I saw what issues were most common with it and was glad I went with the 15-22. Having said that, when I bought my 15-22, I searched it out and saw plenty of issues with it as well, non of which, I have experienced.
Whoever has that GSG5 pistol, that thing looks awesome!
My son has the Sig 522, very nice, shoots great. Seems to be a little more ammo sensative, we have moved past the winchester 333, but occasionally he'll have an issue with federal 550, the 15-22 does not. The Sig has a last shot hold open, but the mag is what holds it open, so when you drop the mag, the bolt goes shut. The mags on the Sig are a bear to load, so we got a couple of Black dog load assists for them, which I feel are essential for the 522 magazines.
If I had bought the Sig first, I'd be just as happy with it, but since I have the 15-22, I wouldn't trade it for the Sig. I too liked the Colt, at the time, it was quite a bit higher at the shows I was going to, then I saw what issues were most common with it and was glad I went with the 15-22. Having said that, when I bought my 15-22, I searched it out and saw plenty of issues with it as well, non of which, I have experienced.
Whoever has that GSG5 pistol, that thing looks awesome!
I noticed your front iron site is on with a scope.
Does this help in using your scope to be more accurate?
Will this work with RDS?
I love your setup.
Yeah, I hear that most often. In my opinion, if I wanted something close to my AR-15 to train with, I would still go with the M&P or I would get a .22lr conversion kit for my AR. The Smith may be plastic but it functions just like the other rifle. That Colt/Umarex appears to be style over function. That thin barrel irks me really bad haha
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After spending two minutes handling the Colt, my decision was made - I haven't felt such a chintzy, poorly manufactured weapon in a while.
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5.56 has pretty non-existent recoil too.
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armympwjrk
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also has anyone heard anything about the chiappa mfour 22?
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Chiappa Firearms
Anybody ever tried this one or know much about the company?
comes with 2 mags (28rnd )
Anybody ever tried this one or know much about the company?
comes with 2 mags (28rnd )
I made the mistake of buying a Colt/Umarex M4-22 when they first came out. They look nice but that's it, the design is overly complicated and poorly executed. I wouldn't recommend one of these to my worst enemy. The Sig 522 is heads and shoulders better than the Colt/Umarex and a decent rifle. It feels good in hand and shoots well, plus it has a good trigger and I like the folding stock. I like the one I bought after I dumped the Colt. The Smith & Wesson M&P15-22 though is IMO the best of the bunch. I bought one of the first ones before they threaded the barrel. Great rifle, accurate and trouble free with the same manual of arms of a centerfire AR. The only thing I didn't like was the unthreaded barrel, so when Smith introduced the next version with the flash suppressor I bought one. Then I saw my first MOE model and this one I feel is even better so I upgraded to the MOE.
After countless rounds through all my different M&P15-22s I can say they are great rifles. So stay away from the Colt, unless you enjoy getting aggravated, the Sig is good if you don't want an AR type manual of arms. But if I could have only one it would be the S&W M&P15-22. Check out the MOE model which has really neat features.
After countless rounds through all my different M&P15-22s I can say they are great rifles. So stay away from the Colt, unless you enjoy getting aggravated, the Sig is good if you don't want an AR type manual of arms. But if I could have only one it would be the S&W M&P15-22. Check out the MOE model which has really neat features.
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GSG-5 owner here. It's one of the older ones that was shipped in the first batch. Ran great for about 1400 rounds and then I was running into multiple FTF and FTE issues every magazine. This last trip out it suffered a cracked bolt carrier in the exact same spot as others have posted about.
Just got notification of my Dark Earth MOE moved up to a shipped status. Very excited to have reliable 22 coming my way!
Just got notification of my Dark Earth MOE moved up to a shipped status. Very excited to have reliable 22 coming my way!
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Among all the tactical .22s I picked these two. Both are great rifles. Sig522 is a bit heavy and more accurate. 15-22 is lighter and has a lot more available accessories via AR platform. 15-22 gets more range time 
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Brett248Vista
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It's a regular 15-22, I added a Tacticool22 barrel nut adapter and used a DPMS AR15 Barrel Nut, DPMS Delta Ring Kit, Armalite A2 sight post (with custom machine spacer compliments of Brett (BELT_FED) DPMS Carbine Length Hand Guards and Hand Guard End Cap.
Among all the tactical .22s I picked these two. Both are great rifles. Sig522 is a bit heavy and more accurate. 15-22 is lighter and has a lot more available accessories via AR platform. 15-22 gets more range time
What are the scopes/red dots you have on those, and how do you like them?
Also how do you like the angled foregrip, I've been thinking about trying one and would love a informed opinion.
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Not sure about what Phil has on the Sig, but the other two are Primary Arms red dot's.
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The Sig522 has a Primary Arms compact 4x. It has a very fine (thin) reticle designed similar to an ACOG TA01. The 15-22 has a Primary Arms MicroDot. Both have given great service for the past couple years. The 4x is heavy and I use it for more precise aiming, so it's well suited to the Sig. The MicroDot is light and good for what I use it for bouncing around soda cans and junk. I like the AFG. I have three of them. Two of them in the pics here, and one on my Bushmaster.
I consider myself an expert on this subject. I owned a GSG-5 (actually two of them) for a little over a year and now I have the 15-22. The GSG-5 was a cool looking gun and I was very excited to get it. We took it to the range and it started jamming. I studied up, got the right ammo, cleaned it, and tried again, and again, and again. Almost half of the rounds that I tried to put through the GSG ended up FTF and were severely bent. I finally took it back, Big 5 was great about it, they gave me another one, which I thought was great. It wasn't, it jammed just as often as the first. When I cleaned it, little pieces of metal fell out. I don't think they were important parts because the GSG didn't work any worse once they were gone, but it didn't work any better either. I finally took the second one back to Big 5 and asked them to throw it in the trash. They gave me store credit, I got the 15-22 and everything has been great since then. I've had two ftf's in about 1500 rounds, both easily cleared with a pull of the charging handle, back shooting in about 3 seconds. It is also much more sturdy than the GSG, here is why that matters--I tried to zero the GSG every time we went shooting, the mounting rail wasn't secure enough and it never kept a good zero, I was basically re-zeroing after every jam (i.e. every other shot). I've learned a lot about patience, frustration and anger management from my GSG, but almost nothing about shooting. The 15-22 zeroed in about 10 minutes and can split an onion at 75 yards on the first shot. I haven't had a jam, but the rail is not moving anywhere, so I doubt I'll need to re-zero when I do get one. In case the conclusion isn't obvious, buy a 15-22 for yourself or your son, and get a GSG for someone you hate or someone you are afraid might try to shoot you while you're sleeping. It'll jam and you'll have plenty of time to get up, get dressed, brush your teeth, find your 15-22, load a magazine and shoot them before they clear the jam and shoot again.
Kayback
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I could be wrong, but just looking at the Chippa Mfour it looks like it uses Commercial spec stocks. Not a train smash if it does, but something to look at.
The forward assist also looks like it is non functional, and the flash hiders are all set screwed on, the barrel is not threaded.
None of those are bad in and of themselves, but it doesn't inspire much confidence.
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The forward assist also looks like it is non functional, and the flash hiders are all set screwed on, the barrel is not threaded.
None of those are bad in and of themselves, but it doesn't inspire much confidence.
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thacheese
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I was just looking at the exploded diagram of these, and they look waaaay better than the umarex ones, also if i read this correctly the upper is usable on a std ar lower. kudos to them for offering the diagrams readily on their site. that alone would make more more comfortable purchasing from them.
