Cincinnati uses the 9mm M&P.
How many LEO's on here carry an M&P?
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Cincinnati uses the 9mm M&P.
trane fan
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PO, not LEO, my issue weapon is M&P 40FS, personal carry is M&P 40c and nightstand gun is M&P Pro Series 40FS w/Insight light on rail.
JamesArthur60
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PC Geek Shooter
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From Wilco423: Hennepin Co. Sheriff's Office (Minnesota) is mostly carrying M&P 40s, with some 45s and 9s mixed in, both fullsize and compacts (compacts are for investigators). Much better than the SW990s we were carrying before!
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Sharpshooter:
Back in the days of the dump pouch, handing a fellow Officer a few rounds, although a significant portion of your carry load, probably wouldn't have made as much a mess as today, where the guy with two spare mags is giving up half his supply, perhaps....
I used to carry two dump pouches and twelve FMJ's in loops on the rear of my belt - they looked really nice, but weren't intended to be shot. The PD didn't want to hear about .357's at all. They eventually issued stainless M19's - I forget the model number - but still wouldn't let anybody carry the .357's. Hollow points were Politically Incorrect, too!
In the years that I was closely associated with YPD, I don't think the entire PD fired more than ten rounds "in anger" from a handgun, including two or three riots. ('Course, our riots were pretty tame....)
Not that you couldn't share ammunition, but it's got to be a more carefully thought out decision.
Then there's the magazine interchangeability issue, too.... The M&P40FS and M&P40C can use the longer full size magazine. It means that your BUG can use your standard magazines if necessary. Within the "you should always have a spare magazine for anything" view, it's an advantage. Two full size magazines on your belt, one in the duty gun, and one (small) magazine in the BUG, and you're well set up. If the stuff really hits the fan and you need to clear a problem with the BUG, you may still have a spare mag for it, without having to hassle an odd magazine.
Regards,
Back in the days of the dump pouch, handing a fellow Officer a few rounds, although a significant portion of your carry load, probably wouldn't have made as much a mess as today, where the guy with two spare mags is giving up half his supply, perhaps....
I used to carry two dump pouches and twelve FMJ's in loops on the rear of my belt - they looked really nice, but weren't intended to be shot. The PD didn't want to hear about .357's at all. They eventually issued stainless M19's - I forget the model number - but still wouldn't let anybody carry the .357's. Hollow points were Politically Incorrect, too!
In the years that I was closely associated with YPD, I don't think the entire PD fired more than ten rounds "in anger" from a handgun, including two or three riots. ('Course, our riots were pretty tame....)
Not that you couldn't share ammunition, but it's got to be a more carefully thought out decision.
Then there's the magazine interchangeability issue, too.... The M&P40FS and M&P40C can use the longer full size magazine. It means that your BUG can use your standard magazines if necessary. Within the "you should always have a spare magazine for anything" view, it's an advantage. Two full size magazines on your belt, one in the duty gun, and one (small) magazine in the BUG, and you're well set up. If the stuff really hits the fan and you need to clear a problem with the BUG, you may still have a spare mag for it, without having to hassle an odd magazine.
Regards,
NA225
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Glock 22 and 23 department issued, however an approved list of sidearms still ok for carry. Most of the time I switch between my 640-1, three inch 65-3 and a four inch 66 no dash (what everyone carried when I was a rookie) with speedstrip reloads in pocket. Love those S&W .357s!
Landric
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My department recently transitioned from the Beretta 96FS to the Glock .40 S&W pistols. The huge majority of folks got the Model 22 Gen 4, the detectives got the Model 27, and a couple of the command staff folks, including the chief got the Model 23 RTF2.
I'm not a fan of Glock pistols in general, and I think the .40 S&W ones are the worst of the lot. I happened to be in the right place at the right time, and I requested a 23 instead of the 22. They said they would get me one, and despite my past experience with those sort of promises, it actually came true. I'm the only person in the patrol division with the 23, everyone else who has one is a boss.
I requested the 23 for a couple of reasons. First, it points better for me than the 22. It still points high, but not as high as the 22 does in my hands. Second, its easier to carry concealed off-duty and the shorter butt is more comfortable and makes the gun easier to draw when seated in a patrol car. Third, I didn't want to be a test dummy for the Gen 4 Glock. There were not any Gen 4 23s when we placed the order. As it turns out, I probably made the right decision. Our first day on the range one of my coworker's Gen 4 22s self destructed its new "improved" recoil spring/guide rod on the 3 shot it fired after coming out of the box brand new and left the gun completely inoperable.
We looked at the M&P series before getting the Glock. It came down to price for us, Glocks were $50 cheaper per unit, as were the holsters and spare magazines. I would have much preferred the M&P, but what can I do?
Our county Sheriff's Office and the State Highway Patrol both have the M&P, as do some large police departments just south of us, and State Probation and Parole. Its popular.
I am qualified with a full-size M&P45 that I carry off-duty sometimes.
I'm not a fan of Glock pistols in general, and I think the .40 S&W ones are the worst of the lot. I happened to be in the right place at the right time, and I requested a 23 instead of the 22. They said they would get me one, and despite my past experience with those sort of promises, it actually came true. I'm the only person in the patrol division with the 23, everyone else who has one is a boss.
I requested the 23 for a couple of reasons. First, it points better for me than the 22. It still points high, but not as high as the 22 does in my hands. Second, its easier to carry concealed off-duty and the shorter butt is more comfortable and makes the gun easier to draw when seated in a patrol car. Third, I didn't want to be a test dummy for the Gen 4 Glock. There were not any Gen 4 23s when we placed the order. As it turns out, I probably made the right decision. Our first day on the range one of my coworker's Gen 4 22s self destructed its new "improved" recoil spring/guide rod on the 3 shot it fired after coming out of the box brand new and left the gun completely inoperable.
We looked at the M&P series before getting the Glock. It came down to price for us, Glocks were $50 cheaper per unit, as were the holsters and spare magazines. I would have much preferred the M&P, but what can I do?
Our county Sheriff's Office and the State Highway Patrol both have the M&P, as do some large police departments just south of us, and State Probation and Parole. Its popular.
I am qualified with a full-size M&P45 that I carry off-duty sometimes.
Model29Lover
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The Ky State Police issue the Glock 35 and the Glock 27 for backup. They used to use the S&W 1076 10mm for 10 years and were met with heavy opposition when they made the switch, from the officers themselves. They were overruled for some reason. I now have to buy a 35, as I will be a State Police officer after I graduate from E.K.U with a Police Studies degree! Wish they had of went with the Smith's!!!
I transitioned to mine this week. It is a M+P .40 w/o thumb and mag safeties. I was hesitant after 23 years with a 92F/G, but was pleasantly surprised. I bought a .40 Compact yesterday as a BUG/off duty. Kinda voted with my wallet. I like it much.
ArmyCop
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When I was with city police I used my own personal full size .40 M&P with night sights and Crimson Trace grip. Now that I'm a federal police officer I have to use what they issued - Beretta 92D 9mm.
I'd rather have the M&P.
I'd rather have the M&P.
Bloodhound
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Beat me to it...Glocks don't wear out...
Nothing wrong with the M&Ps...I can carry the M&P or a Sig or....
Most days I carry a Glock 21 with my Glock 30 backup. On court days, the Colt 1911 (Fits better under a suit)..I qual with all three every quarter.
SMMAssociates
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Glock's don't wear out....
Glock users are shamed into buying something better....
(Couldn't resist....)
Bloodhound:
I usually carry an Officer's sized 1911 myself, but the M&P40C would probably do what you need instead of the 1911. Just a teensy bit thicker, maybe, and quite a bit lighter. I switched to the little .40 in deference to my little 1911 being a little too heavy for the cheap belt on my grubby jeans around the house.
The Full Size is BIG! I can see why everybody likes 'em, though. My duty gun (rent-a-cop, now semi-retired) was a 6" S&W M19, with a 4" M10HB for concealment. The M&P's in the same category. Get the job done.... (And the .40 gives you 15 rounds v.s. six....) I wouldn't hesitate over the M&P45 either, for duty.
Regards,
Glock users are shamed into buying something better....
(Couldn't resist....)
Bloodhound:
I usually carry an Officer's sized 1911 myself, but the M&P40C would probably do what you need instead of the 1911. Just a teensy bit thicker, maybe, and quite a bit lighter. I switched to the little .40 in deference to my little 1911 being a little too heavy for the cheap belt on my grubby jeans around the house
. The Full Size is BIG! I can see why everybody likes 'em, though. My duty gun (rent-a-cop, now semi-retired) was a 6" S&W M19, with a 4" M10HB for concealment. The M&P's in the same category. Get the job done.... (And the .40 gives you 15 rounds v.s. six....) I wouldn't hesitate over the M&P45 either, for duty.
Regards,
As a certified and re-certified Glock Armorer about 8x over I can assure you that Glocks wear out. I have a few Glock 22's that have had enough replacement parts where I would have been better off just buying a new gun. Glock will take care of you to a point and then the stop (usually when it looks like the issue involves quality control or design issues). Of course I will specify that this issue seems to be inherent to the .40 cal guns. You can choose to believe Glocks are infallible but I have pulled over a half dozen from service and actually know better.
bronco45
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Anything, especially mechanical wears out, it's the second law of thermodynamics.
Glocks, M&Ps, Sigs, Colts and even Rugers wear out. The question is which one wears out faster than the others.
Glocks, M&Ps, Sigs, Colts and even Rugers wear out. The question is which one wears out faster than the others.
No longer working got to old. I carried my SW 686 until myself and one other were told to go to the glock 17. My shooting score improved by 40 points after shooting 2500 rounds in two days. When I worked parades the young kids used to come up and ask about that big shiny old gun I carried. I called it a wheel gun and had some new young officers wonder what it was. Sold that 686 and have wished I had not done it.....The dept. still carries the 17 and everyone got a new last year.
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