How much $ on a scope?

My Bug Buster is a neat scope up to about 5x after that it is not as clear as I would like, but at what distance are you going to shoot a 15-22 that 5x will not accommodate? I found a need for YHM 1/2" risers to be comfortable. The 1.5x4 Monstrum with cantilever mount I spoke of in an earlier thread works better on a 15-22 for me.
I hope all the suggestions have not confused rather than aided answering the original question.

If you use tall rings in the first place, a riser is often not necessary. It sure is with the medium rings supplied with the scope. :)

I haven't noticed any particular loss of clarity at higher powers, but most of my shooting is under 6x, even at 100 yards.
 
My advice is stay clear of the really cheap optics on the web, especially ebay and the likes. If you want to go cheap, buy from the local Academy or even walmart and that way if it is a **** shoot, you can return it fast and easy.

Why do I say this? Well because I tried it and ended up spending way too much on several different cheap clones before I got one that worked. Would have been better off buying a used quality optic IMO

Nothing wrong with bargain hunting on the web for quality optics though.

Also, since the introduction of the EOtech XPS, it seems very good deals can be found on original EOtech sites I think 512 and 522 are the model numbers but not sure. Anyway I have seen these for under $300 NIB on closeout
 
Just to clarify my post...


I don't think it's stupid to buy an optic that costs as much or more than the rifle. I've done it myself.

I just don't agree with the "ARFCOM formula" that says the optic SHOULD cost as much as the rifle it's going on. That reminds me of the wedding ring formula.

My $750 Elk rifle has a $250 optic on it. It's taken more abuse than I'd like to admit and has never failed me.
 
SCOPE COST

should we spend as much on the scope as the gun, NO we should spend lots more, IF we were all rich. shoot a scope made in Germany or Sweden, then tell me you wouldn't want one. do I own one YET, no I don't, but I never thought I'd own a Remington 40xb or zeiss binoculars either. I made tremendous sacrifices to buy the good stuff. and 20 years later every time I look thru the Zeiss binocs I say wow. did it hurt back in the early 90's? hell yeah. but averaged over 20 years of viewing pleasure it's a steal. I also have a Nikon buckmaster 3x9 scope that is still going strong bought at the same time for CONSIDERABLY less. you can't put a price tag on some things. sitting courtside for a Knicks- Celtics game at MSG for instance, no I didn't buy the tickets. I did pay for the beer. It's all about what's it worth for YOU, and if you can appreciate and take advantage of the extra quality.
 
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your ignorance is showing

nobody told you about using the words, ALWAYS,NEVER,ONLY,GUARANTEED etc. they usually come back to bite you. very little is 100% certain in this life.
 
You can put $70 centerpoint scope optic from Walmart to plink a target 50-100 yards or add $60-100 red dot sight (Bushnell, UTG, ...) to shoot in closer range. For 22LR shooting, even the cheap optics (sub $100) can give you plenty of enjoyment out of your MP15-22. Of course, you can also put a $1.8K ACOG with RMR to plink targets if you can afford it ;).

If you only going to use it for MP15-22, most of cheap scopes with good adjustments will let you zero and enjoy shooting. If you need optics for other calibers, then you will need to pay a bit more for more robust adjustments, good eye relief, clear view, illumination, ... The question is what is worth to you and how much you can spare?
 
Depends on use.



I lived in Alaska for 35 years. When I put a scope on my rifle I considered it would be used for hunting and very possibly for self defense (big bears).

It had to remain clear and on target. It would receive heavy use. Carried on snow machines, in boats and on airplanes. It would be used in some of the worse weather and in the most extreme conditions in North America.

When I saved my money, as well as my time off, to take a 10-day fly-in hunt it was imperative my scope functioned.

I have seen many malfunctioning Bushnells, Tascos, and Simmons, to name a few.
I never had a failure of a Leupold (or old Redfield or old Weaver). The Leupolds I chose usually cost me about 75% of the value of my rifle. There were cheaper as well as much more expensive models, but the models with the features I used for hunting fell into that range.

Now, how about the guy in Florida, or Colorado, or wherever that may sight in his rifle with 1 or 2 shots each year, if at all, and most likely will ride around in the cab of a pickup truck a couple of mornings (if it doesn't rain) and will poke the muzzle out the window and actually shoot at a deer once every 8 years?
If he misses a deer its no big deal because his family won't go hungry . If the cross hairs fall apart he can replace the scope by stopping at Walmart on the way home. The most dangerous thing he will deal with is a stuck seat belt when they stop for beer.
About any scope that fits his rifle should suffice.


So, it depends on use.

Do you need dependability through extreme temps and rough handling? Do you need clarity in the brush at twilight? Do you shoot a hard recoiling gun that may shake the scope's innards loose?

If so, you must pay for it!

Now that I am retired and live where the weather is a little friendlier and I am hunting when I walk out my back door, I find old habits hard to break.
But I am using a Vortex on a long-range rifle and so-far I'm happy with it. I have tried a couple rather inexpensive red dot sights and lasers on my range AR's and practice handguns and found some have problems over time.

I think a good rule for buying guns and scopes is: If it is for serious use, get the best you can afford.
 
Suckersrus,

I agree with that completely! And here's the rub, a 15-22 is not for "serious use". It's not for big game hunting, it's certainly not a primary go-to weapon for critical self defense and for chasing paper it's a 3 to 3.5 MOA rifle. That narrows down the how serious of an optic that needs to be mounted to this platform.

With that being said, if someone wants to put an expensive optic on it, go for it! But there are affordable options out there that are well suited for the design philosophy of this platform.
 
What to spend on a scope depends on many factors including: what caliber, distance to target, size of target, stationary target or moving target, is the target a dangerous animal? For plinking with a .22, I would keep it way under the price of the rifle. If you are talking long range big game hunting, a good scope might cost as much as or more than the rifle. If you are looking to compete in 2,000 yard matches, the scope might cost two or three times the cost of the rifle.
 
Charlie,

I just did a quick google search and more than a few recommended the Vortex Razor ($2K) for 2K yards. That's substantially cheaper than a .50 cal. :)

For $1300 you could get a nice Trijicon 5-20 x 50! :)
 
BUDGETS

If I stayed within my budget I'd own nothing worth over 200$. anything nice I have, I left the budget in another area code. and most important, don't let the wife find out. "you remember this gun, we shot it at the range that time".
 
Bill, I take it you wish to scope a 15-22, in my case one of mine is set up with a $100 scope that I bought on Ebay and it has a lighted cross hair ( or not) 1.5x4 variable power, 30 mm tube and a neat cantilever mount. Would I put it on a 3 gun match rifle? No, but works great on the 15-22 and adds over a pound giving the rifle better feel. On an AR I bought a cantilever mount for 20 bucks on ebay and a BSA 2x scope from Midway for $40. This thing is great for short range and holds zero under all the conditions I have subjected it. Then there is the Eotech on a DPMS .308....point being I can spend what I want for the needed result, however, if you pay for a quality you normally will not be disappointed.
I actually have one of the same 1.5-4x scopes you mention. It works well for many types of activity. The only reason I changed to a different 1-4x28 scope from Sniper, Inc. ($140) was to get a reticle that more closely matched the one on the $400 Burris MTAC 1-4x24 currently on my 3-gun AR for practice use.
 
My first scope for this rifle was a Nikon 4x30. I think it ended up being $90 retail. I didn't think that was a cheap scope. Nikon obviously makes good quality lenses and glass, and my Nikon 5100 is an awesome DSLR. I ended up selling the scope a couple months later because I didn't think it fit the look of the rifle well, and was more suited to a Ruger 10/22, and replaced it with a covered red dot, but the scope itself was perfect.
 
I'm in the same boat. I have about $100 left in Amazon gift cards from Christmas. I've been looking for a cheap but decent ~$100 scope for my 15-22. It's a paper puncher and my only rifle. I can't imagine dropping more than $100 on one. So much junk to wade through on Amazon though...
 
Take a look at Primary Arms branded optics. They are seriously nice for the money and well-backed by a great company. I have one of their RDS optics for one of my ARs.

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