How “scarce” are .38 M & P Model of 1905 4th change revolvers with round butts?
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RM Vivas
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I don't think that I would consider the RB scarce; less common, perhaps but not scarce.
What I -would- consider scarce are RB with grooved front and backstraps.
In going through some correspondence from the factory I saw that some folks had written asking about grooved front and backstraps on RB guns they wanted to order.
Up until the mid-late 1920's the factory position was they did not have the jigs available to do so. However, further searching and reading shows that they -would- do the grooves but would charge for making up the jigs. The price of the jigs basically almost doubled the cost of the gun. This bears out the Jinks-ism that the factory would do pretty much anything if someone was willing to pay for it.
By 1928/1930 grooved straps on RB guns seems to have been an off-menu option.
Tese observations on RB guns are a by-product of my looking into the New York Police Target Model revolvers of the late 1920's and earl/mid 1930's. One of the defining characteristics of these guns was grooved front and backstrap and grooved triggers as well as non-typical sight blade dimensions.
So my thought is:
M&P RB is not scarce but rather uncommon or less than common;
M&P RB with grooved straps I consider to be uncommon.
Best,
RM Vivas
What I -would- consider scarce are RB with grooved front and backstraps.
In going through some correspondence from the factory I saw that some folks had written asking about grooved front and backstraps on RB guns they wanted to order.
Up until the mid-late 1920's the factory position was they did not have the jigs available to do so. However, further searching and reading shows that they -would- do the grooves but would charge for making up the jigs. The price of the jigs basically almost doubled the cost of the gun. This bears out the Jinks-ism that the factory would do pretty much anything if someone was willing to pay for it.
By 1928/1930 grooved straps on RB guns seems to have been an off-menu option.
Tese observations on RB guns are a by-product of my looking into the New York Police Target Model revolvers of the late 1920's and earl/mid 1930's. One of the defining characteristics of these guns was grooved front and backstrap and grooved triggers as well as non-typical sight blade dimensions.
So my thought is:
M&P RB is not scarce but rather uncommon or less than common;
M&P RB with grooved straps I consider to be uncommon.
Best,
RM Vivas
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