HP,s now illegal in NJ

As a former NJ resident I can speak on this issue. Hollow point bullet ammunition is not banned per se. Civilians are allowed to purchase and possess HP ammunition for range use. Civilians may NOT use HP ammunition for home defense or if they have a permit to carry concealed. It is impossible to obtain a CWP as a civilian. Gunpowder bans are individual and imposed by a particular dealer. All are ridiculous and arbitrary laws which have ZERO effect on crime and criminals, which is why I moved out after 64 years as a resident. Sad....
 
As a former NJ resident I can speak on this issue. Hollow point bullet ammunition is not banned per se. Civilians are allowed to purchase and possess HP ammunition for range use. Civilians may NOT use HP ammunition for home defense or if they have a permit to carry concealed. It is impossible to obtain a CWP as a civilian. Gunpowder bans are individual and imposed by a particular dealer. All are ridiculous and arbitrary laws which have ZERO effect on crime and criminals, which is why I moved out after 64 years as a resident. Sad....
You can absolutely use HPs for home defense in NJ. It's one of the few places it can be used.

As per another post- LEOs in NJ carry hollow points in their duty guns. They can carry them off duty as well. Everyone else is restricted to home and range use. Your also supposed to "secure" them when traveling to and from the range. If your not heading to the range, having a box of HPs just sitting in your car (with no gun in your possession) would be considered a violation of the law (may be a felony, not sure).
 
Hold on here fellas. You are all responding to an uninformed post. Hollow Point ammo is completely legal in New Jersey, it is only illegal if used in the commission of a crime. There is no restriction for any gun powders either. Know the laws before you post please , don't spread false information.
 
Hold on here fellas. You are all responding to an uninformed post. Hollow Point ammo is completely legal in New Jersey, it is only illegal if used in the commission of a crime. There is no restriction for any gun powders either. Know the laws before you post please , don't spread false information.

Unfortunately, your version of the facts is just as suspect.
 
Here is the straight scoop straight from the NJ legislature.



-It is legal to own and store hollow point ammunition in your home
-It is legal to purchase hollow point ammunition in a store
-It is legal to transport hollow point ammunition to range for sporting use (and for that matter in most hunting situations)
-It is legal to purchase, own and use Corbon Powerball, Hornady Critical Defense and Federal EFMJ (including Federal LE EFMJ +P loads) at range and in personal defense situations in home pursuant to NJ state law on use of force in home defense situation
-NJSP ballistics unit does not consider the rounds mentioned above as hollow point or dum dum bullets and will testify as such if required

-It *may* be illegal to *use* hollow point bullets in a home defense situation, however, this is a gray area. NJSP will not make an arrest higher than 4th degree in this circumstance and if not associated with another unlawlful act will likely not make an arrest at all. However, should criminal or civil charges be pursued by gunshot victim at later date, you may be liable and charged with use.

Recommendation for home defense rounds are the 3 bullets aforementioned. Furthermore, for what it is worth, ballistics expansion tests (for size and consistency each time), penetration results (to FBI guidelines at least 12") and feed reliability suggest the Federal EFMJ 124 +P (for 9mm) be the round of choice. The Corbon Powerball often is seen breaking up and separating and the Critical Defense round is simply too light (along with Federal EFMJ 105-115gr)E
 
Here is the straight scoop straight from the NJ legislature.



-It is legal to own and store hollow point ammunition in your home
-It is legal to purchase hollow point ammunition in a store
-It is legal to transport hollow point ammunition to range for sporting use (and for that matter in most hunting situations)
-It is legal to purchase, own and use Corbon Powerball, Hornady Critical Defense and Federal EFMJ (including Federal LE EFMJ +P loads) at range and in personal defense situations in home pursuant to NJ state law on use of force in home defense situation
-NJSP ballistics unit does not consider the rounds mentioned above as hollow point or dum dum bullets and will testify as such if required

-It *may* be illegal to *use* hollow point bullets in a home defense situation, however, this is a gray area. NJSP will not make an arrest higher than 4th degree in this circumstance and if not associated with another unlawlful act will likely not make an arrest at all. However, should criminal or civil charges be pursued by gunshot victim at later date, you may be liable and charged with use.

Recommendation for home defense rounds are the 3 bullets aforementioned. Furthermore, for what it is worth, ballistics expansion tests (for size and consistency each time), penetration results (to FBI guidelines at least 12") and feed reliability suggest the Federal EFMJ 124 +P (for 9mm) be the round of choice. The Corbon Powerball often is seen breaking up and separating and the Critical Defense round is simply too light (along with Federal EFMJ 105-115gr)E

Laws don't declare what is legal. Just sayin'. If someone wants to insist that their information settles the questions, they need the right references to back it up.
 
Transportation and Use of Hollow Point Ammunition by Sportsmen

Provided certain conditions are met, a sportsman may transport and use hollow point ammunition. There are no restrictions preventing a sportsman from keeping such ammunition at his home.

N.J.S.A 2C:39-3f(1) limits the possession of hollow nose ammunition. However, there is a general exception that allows for the purchase of this ammunition but restricts the possession of it to specified locations. This exception provides that:

(2) Nothing is sub section f (1) shall be construed to prevent a person from keeping such ammunition at his dwelling, premises or other land owned or possessed by him, or from carrying such ammunition from the place of purchase to said dwelling or land . . . [N.J.S.A 26:39-3g (2)].

Thus a person may purchase this ammunition and keep it within the confines of his property. Sub section f (1) further exempts from the prohibited possession of hollow nose ammunition "persons engaged in activities pursuant to N.J.S.A 2C:39-6f. . . ."
N.J.S.A 26:39-3f. (1).

Activities contained in N.J.S.A 26:39-6f. can be broken down as follows:

A member of a rifle or pistol club organized under rules of the National Board for the Promotion of Rifle Practice and which filed its charter with the State Police;A person engaged in hunting or target practice with a firearm legal for hunting in this State;A person going directly to a target range, and;A person going directly to an authorized place for "practice, match, target, trap or skeet shooting exhibitions."

As with other ammunition and firearms, a sportsman would have to comply with the provisions of N.J.S.A 2C:39-6f and g when transporting hollow nose ammunition to a target range. The ammunition should be stored in a closed and fastened container or locked in the trunk of the motor vehicle in which it is being transported. The course of travel should be as direct as possible when going to and leaving from the target range with "only such deviations as are reasonably necessary under the circumstances." N.J.S.A 2C:39-6g.

If the sportsman's club member plans to hunt with a rifle and use hollow nose ammunition in a state where this is permitted, he must comply with the provisions of U.S.C.A. 926A andN.J.S.A 2C:39-6(f) and (6)(g), which is consistent with the federal law, in transporting the firearm and ammunition. The firearm should be unloaded and neither the firearm nor the ammunition should be readily accessible from the passenger compartment. If the vehicle does not have a trunk, the firearm and the ammunition should be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or the console. 18 U.S.C.A. 926A.

In addition, the sportsman should have a valid hunting license in his possession from the state in which he plans to hunt and should be familiar with that state's gun laws. N.J.S.A 2C:39-6(f)(2) requires a person hunting in this State to have a valid hunting license in his possession while traveling to or from the hunting area. Hunting with hollow nose ammunition is permitted in New Jersey. In the case of a New Jersey resident traveling to another state to hunt, it logically would follow that the hunting license would be from the state where the hunter is going. Although the federal statute does not require possession of a hunting license, it does require that the person transporting the firearm be going to a state where possession of that object is lawful. A valid hunting license from that state effectively supplies the proof.

These conditions for use and transport of hollow nose ammunition are consistent with the legislative intent to restrict the use of such ammunition to a limited number of people. It is well established that in construing a statute exceptions are to be "strictly but reasonably construed, consistent with the manifest reason and purpose of the law." Service Armament Co. v. Hyland, 70 N.J. 550, 558-559 (1976). The State Supreme Court has "characterized the Gun Control Law as 'highly purposed and conscientiously designed toward preventing criminal and other unfit elements from acquiring firearms while enabling the fit elements of society to obtain them with minimal burdens.'" Id. at 559.

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I realize I m new to this forum. I joined because I bought A Shield.
That said I am very involved in other forums (Gun and Rv)
This topic is an example of posts that usually run off the rails.

There are A few very informed and factual posts above to straighten the lack of fact in the OP

I just got home from Bass Pro in AC, Third trip this week.
I purchased Bulleye powder ( 1 LB container) on Wed, and Thurs.
I purchased Hornady Critical defense 40 S&W.
I purchased 4,000 rds of 22lr HP .
the pricing was ok. But still I stand by my thoughts as posted above that BP should give A true Military discount. On everything they sell (like their competition)

I wish them luck for the sake of the employees,
But must say they sure arent too busy for the type of store they are.
 
Citizens of the People's Republic of New Jersey were always able to purchase hollow point ammunition. It was only illegal to carry it in public, but since only LEO's and retired officers could carry concealed it was a moot point. Citizens could possess hollow point ammo at home and for use on the range. P.S. Retired law enforcement officers also cannot carry hollow points. The enlightened legislature calls them Dum-Dum ammo.

FYI, K Frame Keith,

Retired LEO's that meet and qualify to the LEOSA standard may carry HP ammo in NJ. This was included in an amendment to LEOSA signed by Obama back in 2010. Reference, 18 U.S. Code, 926B.
 
When I last renewed my carry permit, the deputy sheriff processing my renewal, upon handing me my new permit, stated essentially: "Do not carry in government buildings or schools, and stay out of New Jersey". I haven't crossed the river in years.:p
 
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Postscript: Virginia has nice beaches and a reciprocity agreement with Pennsylvania.:D Pennsylvanians, just be careful going through Delaware or Maryland to get there.
 
FYI, K Frame Keith,

Retired LEO's that meet and qualify to the LEOSA standard may carry HP ammo in NJ. This was included in an amendment to LEOSA signed by Obama back in 2010. Reference, 18 U.S. Code, 926B.

This is true however, NJSP and the NJ AG will NOT honor the revisions to LEOSA.
Coming from NJ originally, retired LEO now living in FL, I was told by the NJSP Firearms Unit that they don't care what LEOSA says, carrying HP ammunition is strictly forbidden.
Then in a sarcastic tone, the Trooper on the phone asked me if I wanted to be a test case for LEOSA? :mad:
I carry Critical Duty in my G27 when traveling to NJ.
 
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