Hungarian FEG hipowers

Here’s my $200 feg
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All numbers match plus shoots/functions pretty good.

I own the twin to this gun, but I changed the grips. The slide/frame fit is so poor that the slide visibly lifts as you pull the trigger. Still minute of bad guy or better at 10 yards, so I have not had it "adjusted".
 
I have a FEG Hi Power made in the 1980's. Picked it up in a trade about 25 years ago; think I might have $120 tied up in it. Overall, very faithful to the original Hi Powers. Major parts (barrel, slide, etc) readily interchange with the Belgian Hi Powers. Good shooter and very reliable. My understanding is that these were made under license from FN.

I have seen several of the later FEG's and, in my opinion, quality went downhill pretty badly.

The Argentine "FM" Hi Powers were made under license with FN inspectors involved in the process from 1970-1990, if I recall correctly. However after that FM made it's own non-licensed copy of the Hi Power with some changes and with no involvement with or approval from FN. Most notable among the changes was the 1911 style treatment to the front of the slide.

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FEG Hi Powers were never made under license. In fact, FEG sold some forgeries to nations in the mid east that were under embargo. The idea being that new FEG P9 or P9M Hi Powers showing up would make it obvious the embargo was being broken, while FN marked "Hi Powers" in the older pre-Mk II configuration would make it less obvious.

FEG also made the P9 and P9M in both military and civilian variants. Those intended for commercial sale or ordered by importers for commercial sale were very nicely finished. Those produced for military sales were usually finished to a lower level of polish and then parkerized or blued.

Many of these military contract pistols have seen hard use before being been bead blasted and then re-parkerized, prior to being re-imported. Consequently, the current finish is no where near as nice as the original finish, and often you'll finds pits in the metal under the re-finish.

You also find a great deal of variation, more than just normal "transition" between models. For example, the P9 I showed above has the P9 slide release, but the larger sights and the extended safety of the first generation P9M. I'll call it a "P9" as the slide and frame can't be easily changed, while the small parts can be easily substituted, but that's not to say FEG did not have some left over P9 frames and slides and sent it out with a commercial contract for what were otherwise first gen P9M pistols.

As a commercial pistol, it was probably made up with the parts on hand at the time, and since both military and commercial pistols might specify different sights, slide releases, safeties or a spur versus round hammer, at any given time FEG was likely to have parts on hand for various sub types.

You can still find nice commercial P9s and P9Ms in the $400-$450 range, but they are a lot less common than they were 4-5 years ago.

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Charles Daly contracted with FEG for the Charles Daly Hi Power with the idea of producing a hi quality Hi Power to compete directly with FN in the US market. Charles Daly imported the parts from FEG, which were then finished and assembled in the US and thus were not considered imports. KBI/Charles Daly lost money on every one of them and they were only about $125 less than a FN Hi Power at the time.

Unfortunately, both FEG and KBI/Charles Daly are gone. With FN dropping the Hi Power there'd be a decent market for a well made clone. I would not be surprised to see one go back into production again on old FN, FM, or FEG tooling, once the current supply of surplus Hi Powers is gone.
 
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Sounds like an early model would be a dependable gun.
Absolutely. I have a P9 and a first gen P9M and owned another first gen P9M that I sold to a friend. All three shot as well as either one of my FN Hi Powers.

As clones of a pre Mk II Hi Power they have the humped rather than straight feed ramp. Some folks report issues feeding some hollow points. However, I have never had any issues with mine using hollow points that varied from the truncated cone shaped Hornady XTP to the RNFP shaped Golden Saber.

If you do have issues, a competent Hi Power gunsmith can remove some metal to give it the straight configuration.
 
The FEG P9 is a very close copy of the Pre Mk II Hi Power.

The first generation P9M is nearly identical to the P9 except for a 1911 style slide release lever, larger 3 dot sights and an extended safety. It's arguably a better shooter given those refinements.

The second generation P9M is not a Hi Power at all as it uses a S&W style locking system.

Unfortunately KBI imported all of them as the "PJK-9HP" and TGI imported them all as the "P9M".

I talk about them in more detail in this post, along with the Argentine FM Hi Power, and the "Kareen" version of the FEG Hi Power in its different forms:

http://smith-wessonforum.com/139648096-post31.html

Gratuitous FEG P9 porn:

Thank you. Your older post is one of the ones I was searching for but did not find.
 
I bought one for my son for last Christmas. It was $225 (I think) at a police supply place and was probably an evidence gun that was traded in.

It has been flawless for him. The sights and safety are better than a legit Browning Hi Power.

I’m keeping the next one I come across.

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I found stock pics of the S&W like version of the FEG Hi Power. As you can see it has a number of subtle external changes. Notice the slide mounted safety like most Smith’s of the day and it is SA/DA. There is also a S&W type step in the frame just forward of the trigger guard and a different shape to the top rear of the grip panel. Plus, as noted above it has a varying number different internal changes from the Browning design. I am surprised that this was ever thought to be a Hi Power clone. Aside from an attempt to make similar grip panels and the shape of the front of the slide that is about the end of similarities.
 

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I bought 2 of these on a whim in 1998 when they were $199 from CDNN, and still have both of them. They have been, in every way, the quality analog of an actual FN Hi Power.
The bluing on the KBI imported guns is truly "python-esque". :D
If you can find one at an agreeable price I say jump on it!
 
I bought a PJK-9HP new back in the late 90's. It was a good gun, never had any complaints. I sold it a few years ago to help finance another revolver buying spree, wish I still had it. The next decent example I run across I'll probably buy.
 
I found stock pics of the S&W like version of the FEG Hi Power. As you can see it has a number of subtle external changes. Notice the slide mounted safety like most Smith’s of the day and it is SA/DA. There is also a S&W type step in the frame just forward of the trigger guard and a different shape to the top rear of the grip panel. Plus, as noted above it has a varying number different internal changes from the Browning design. I am surprised that this was ever thought to be a Hi Power clone. Aside from an attempt to make similar grip panels and the shape of the front of the slide that is about the end of similarities.

That's the double action P9R. It is indeed an S&W 59 clone.

However, the second generation P9M looks like a Hi Power, but has the S&W locking system. Externally you can tell them apart from the P9 and first gen P9M by the lack of an oval in the right side of the frame, above the trigger. If it doesn't have that oval, it is not a Hi Power or Hi Power clone.
 
Nowadays,with the machinery they've got,they just have to punch in the numbers and they can copy any gun's blueprinted part.As long as the steel is of good quality,it'll spit out a good part.
Heck,last week,I got my Colt Gold Cup outgrouped by a $400 Norinco.I tried it(the Nork)afterwards and while I must admit my trigger was a little nicer,I think I can bring the Nork's trigger as nice as my GC.
I was stunned and I think Mr Sam L.Colt was!
 
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