I have a question on bump stocks

The quickest way to get control of bump stocks is to put a 200 tax stamp like I had to get when I built a Holmes MP82 machine pistol make them do what I had to do in 1983 to built the machine pistol, this will filter out 90% of the buyers and the feds will get 200 a pop and they will know who has them. Jeff

That was the way to go until May of 1986 when the ATF said no more making or converting a full auto weapon.

I bet you only waited a week or two for your stamp, instead of the 8 to 12 months wait time now days.

Found this online, $631 for a Colt M16 in 1979. Can't touch one now for under $20K.

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Wood714 The best I remember was it took about 11/2 or 2 months for the paper work to come, I posted it here on the forum for sale but got no feedback, if you look in posts by me it may still have pictures of it. Wood 714 I just checked my posts there is a picture of the Holmes MP82 that I posted here it was posted on 10/30/2009 I was surprised that was still up, you can see a home made machine gun. Jeff
 
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Found this online, $631 for a Colt M16 in 1979. Can't touch one now for under $20K.

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I bought a lot of stuff at that place. My sales person was a gal. She was required to be armed at work and seriously...she had an actual Uzi in her desk drawer. The place was in a kinda downscale residential area and had a razor wire topped fence around it. They sold full auto etc and to get in you had to wait to have a salesperson come out to get you. Otherwise you were locked in to a vestibule. That gal helped me get a Pennsylvania carry permit....mainly because of the area they were in...and a Pa explosives permit. I bought 4 magazines for a Swedish K at that place for 5 dollars each.
 
I reread the proposal. There would be a grace period to destroy or surrender them, then possession becomes illegal with the exception of LE / military. No discussion of adding them to the NFA tax-stamp routine.

Since they are still in the allowed review period, there is nothing new.

Why would LE / military ever want one of those silly bump stocks?
 
Wood714 The best I remember was it took about 11/2 or 2 months for the paper work to come, I posted it here on the forum for sale but got no feedback, if you look in posts by me it may still have pictures of it. Wood 714 I just checked my posts there is a picture of the Holmes MP82 that I posted here it was posted on 10/30/2009 I was surprised that was still up, you can see a home made machine gun. Jeff

That's most CooL. Would sell for a lot more than that now days.

I'm sending a form 1 in next week, and expect 8 to 12 months wait time. Hope I live long enough to get the damn thing.

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I can see bump stocks being either grandfathered or allowed to be registered as an NFA item. I can't see the Feds requiring that they be either surrendered or destroyed without fair market compensation.

Bump stocks are toys and a fine way of wasting ammunition, but who am I to criticize? I just bought my second machinegun. I have to wait for my transfer paperwork to be approved. I'm thinking next June, give or take a month. It took 8 1/2 months for approval for my first machinegun.
 
I bought about ten of them on October 2-3 of last year, then put them on GB over the next few weeks as the media, of the time, was hyping a ban on them...

They aren't a controlled part, like a receiver, so who is going to know who owns what?
 
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They aren't a controlled part, like a receiver, so who is going to know who owns what?

They won't know until you have one out in front of someone who rats on you (mad girlfriend, ex wife, ...) or you get caught in some sort of search by LE.
 
The quickest way to get control of bump stocks is to put a 200 tax stamp like I had to get when I built a Holmes MP82 machine pistol make them do what I had to do in 1983 to built the machine pistol, this will filter out 90% of the buyers and the feds will get 200 a pop and they will know who has them. Jeff

How would "control of bump stocks" have stopped the evil murderer in Las Vegas??? :confused:
 
I can see bump stocks being either grandfathered or allowed to be registered as an NFA item. I can't see the Feds requiring that they be either surrendered or destroyed without fair market compensation.

Bump stocks are toys and a fine way of wasting ammunition, but who am I to criticize? I just bought my second machinegun. I have to wait for my transfer paperwork to be approved. I'm thinking next June, give or take a month. It took 8 1/2 months for approval for my first machinegun.

If they register the stock this might not be so bad it is still far less than a M-16 today... And it could be swapped to any AR. It could be worth it to make a nice billet bumpfire just in case they grandfather them in. In 1985 we were registering auto sears $15.00 for a sear and $200 for a transfer now they sell for15 to 2 grand... 8 1/2 months for a transfer sucks... My first machine gun took about 8 weeks... lol
 
I receive a couple of different gun related newsletters each month. I forget exactly which ones this story was in but I'm sure you can google it. I have seen the video.
Trump recently stated publicly that the bump stock ban is near reality. They're still working on the wording to make sure its air tight, but it will happen soon and he will sign it.

From what I understand the ban will be outright. They must be turned in or destroyed. No possible way to legally own one.

Personally, I don't have one, have no use for one and don't want one. However, I think the whole idea of banning a non registered add-on part sets a bad precedent for our future.
 
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Why not.......

Why not make them like any auto weapon and require registration of the part and a special license.

I shoot too fast already with my semi guns. With some of them I can got through a 30 round mag in a few seconds. I'd be better off putting on the brakes rather than stepping on the gas.
 
Me, I'd rather take my time, savor the shot and hit what I'm aiming at. But then again, I'm just a dumb ***.

No, I'd say you're an enlightened person. I had the same lightbulb go off in my head when I recently shot some 110 grain .30-06 varmint loads from my Dad's Remington 700. Not only did I hit a small steel plate at a long distance, the boring old 110 grain JSP's punched a 1/2" diameter hole right through the plate. That got me thinking about all the tactical goons spraying lead all over and talking about the penetrative qualities of their FMJ ammo. I'm beginning to think that a simple, scoped "deer rifle" is the best SHTF weapon in existence. I guess I'm the dumb *** now.:o
 
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The bump stocks are bad press for gun owners, much like these new hi cap shotguns. Good for a testosterone rush, but beyond that, not so much. As greyfox said these being banned outright sets a bad precedent for the future.
 
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I don't see how there wouldn't be a grandfather clause and not be unconstitutional, especially at the federal level. Ex post facto.

When I sold my last one, I cried. I wiped my tears with the money people are/were willing to pay.
 
I own long range guns real machine guns and a bump stock all of them are fun in their own way. Everyone on here owns their gun for the fun of it how can some of you be so biased and single minded to support banning another persons form of fun? How about if we ban the most dangerous guns that would be Long range rifles and hunting rifles.. Would you want the other shooters to agree with that so you will loose the right to have the gun you want?

I have never had someone say they did not enjoy shooting a full auto NEVER... But how many people can afford $10-20 thousand to own one? or several? A bumpfire stock makes it affordable to own. If they are going to ban bumpfire stocks they should allow the sale of new full auto weapons instead. I would be more than happy to give up a plastic bump stock for the ability to buy or build a real full auto at an affordable price...

To any of you critics who want to ban bumpfire or can't afford the ammo and think they can not be fun I invite you to shoot one of mine and I will supply the ammo... I will bet you will enjoy it...
 
I own long range guns real machine guns and a bump stock all of them are fun in their own way. Everyone on here owns their gun for the fun of it how can some of you be so biased and single minded to support banning another persons form of fun? How about if we ban the most dangerous guns that would be Long range rifles and hunting rifles.. Would you want the other shooters to agree with that so you will loose the right to have the gun you want?

I have never had someone say they did not enjoy shooting a full auto NEVER... But how many people can afford $10-20 thousand to own one? or several? A bumpfire stock makes it affordable to own. If they are going to ban bumpfire stocks they should allow the sale of new full auto weapons instead. I would be more than happy to give up a plastic bump stock for the ability to buy or build a real full auto at an affordable price...

To any of you critics who want to ban bumpfire or can't afford the ammo and think they can not be fun I invite you to shoot one of mine and I will supply the ammo... I will bet you will enjoy it...
What he said, he's right you know. I just took my AR pistol out with the new Binary trigger and it was the most fun I've had shooting in years! This thing just puts a huge grin on your face, too much fun. We'll see what happens when they come after the binarys too?
 

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