I have a question on bump stocks
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tozan
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If they register the stock this might not be so bad it is still far less than a M-16 today... And it could be swapped to any AR. It could be worth it to make a nice billet bumpfire just in case they grandfather them in. In 1985 we were registering auto sears $15.00 for a sear and $200 for a transfer now they sell for15 to 2 grand... 8 1/2 months for a transfer sucks... My first machine gun took about 8 weeks... lol
Grayfox
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I receive a couple of different gun related newsletters each month. I forget exactly which ones this story was in but I'm sure you can google it. I have seen the video.
Trump recently stated publicly that the bump stock ban is near reality. They're still working on the wording to make sure its air tight, but it will happen soon and he will sign it.
From what I understand the ban will be outright. They must be turned in or destroyed. No possible way to legally own one.
Personally, I don't have one, have no use for one and don't want one. However, I think the whole idea of banning a non registered add-on part sets a bad precedent for our future.
Trump recently stated publicly that the bump stock ban is near reality. They're still working on the wording to make sure its air tight, but it will happen soon and he will sign it.
From what I understand the ban will be outright. They must be turned in or destroyed. No possible way to legally own one.
Personally, I don't have one, have no use for one and don't want one. However, I think the whole idea of banning a non registered add-on part sets a bad precedent for our future.
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Why not.......
Why not make them like any auto weapon and require registration of the part and a special license.
I shoot too fast already with my semi guns. With some of them I can got through a 30 round mag in a few seconds. I'd be better off putting on the brakes rather than stepping on the gas.
Why not make them like any auto weapon and require registration of the part and a special license.
I shoot too fast already with my semi guns. With some of them I can got through a 30 round mag in a few seconds. I'd be better off putting on the brakes rather than stepping on the gas.
CAJUNLAWYER
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Problem with these fast shootin' guns is the price of feeding them..........Me, I'd rather take my time, savor the shot and hit what I'm aiming at. But then again, I'm just a dumb ***.
500SNW
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No, I'd say you're an enlightened person. I had the same lightbulb go off in my head when I recently shot some 110 grain .30-06 varmint loads from my Dad's Remington 700. Not only did I hit a small steel plate at a long distance, the boring old 110 grain JSP's punched a 1/2" diameter hole right through the plate. That got me thinking about all the tactical goons spraying lead all over and talking about the penetrative qualities of their FMJ ammo. I'm beginning to think that a simple, scoped "deer rifle" is the best SHTF weapon in existence. I guess I'm the dumb *** now.
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chiefbob81
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The bump stocks are bad press for gun owners, much like these new hi cap shotguns. Good for a testosterone rush, but beyond that, not so much. As greyfox said these being banned outright sets a bad precedent for the future.
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I don't see how there wouldn't be a grandfather clause and not be unconstitutional, especially at the federal level. Ex post facto.
When I sold my last one, I cried. I wiped my tears with the money people are/were willing to pay.
When I sold my last one, I cried. I wiped my tears with the money people are/were willing to pay.
tozan
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I own long range guns real machine guns and a bump stock all of them are fun in their own way. Everyone on here owns their gun for the fun of it how can some of you be so biased and single minded to support banning another persons form of fun? How about if we ban the most dangerous guns that would be Long range rifles and hunting rifles.. Would you want the other shooters to agree with that so you will loose the right to have the gun you want?
I have never had someone say they did not enjoy shooting a full auto NEVER... But how many people can afford $10-20 thousand to own one? or several? A bumpfire stock makes it affordable to own. If they are going to ban bumpfire stocks they should allow the sale of new full auto weapons instead. I would be more than happy to give up a plastic bump stock for the ability to buy or build a real full auto at an affordable price...
To any of you critics who want to ban bumpfire or can't afford the ammo and think they can not be fun I invite you to shoot one of mine and I will supply the ammo... I will bet you will enjoy it...
I have never had someone say they did not enjoy shooting a full auto NEVER... But how many people can afford $10-20 thousand to own one? or several? A bumpfire stock makes it affordable to own. If they are going to ban bumpfire stocks they should allow the sale of new full auto weapons instead. I would be more than happy to give up a plastic bump stock for the ability to buy or build a real full auto at an affordable price...
To any of you critics who want to ban bumpfire or can't afford the ammo and think they can not be fun I invite you to shoot one of mine and I will supply the ammo... I will bet you will enjoy it...
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What he said, he's right you know. I just took my AR pistol out with the new Binary trigger and it was the most fun I've had shooting in years! This thing just puts a huge grin on your face, too much fun. We'll see what happens when they come after the binarys too?
Erno86
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I think it's important for shooters too learn how to shoot rapid fire with light recoiling firearms, rather than depending on bump fire stocks, binary triggers, etc and even the art of bump firing itself.
Shooting a torso with six shots in six seconds (holes touching each other) is effective --- Shooting a torso with six shoots in 1.5 seconds (in a combat effective zone) is also effective, but one is obviously a lot more efficient.
Its been said: That in order to teach the subconscious how to shoot rapid fire....you'll have to fire about 30,000 rounds --- So as a result --- All the shooter has to do is just aim the sights and and let his/her subconscious pull the trigger.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3gf_5MR4tE[/ame]
Shooting a torso with six shots in six seconds (holes touching each other) is effective --- Shooting a torso with six shoots in 1.5 seconds (in a combat effective zone) is also effective, but one is obviously a lot more efficient.
Its been said: That in order to teach the subconscious how to shoot rapid fire....you'll have to fire about 30,000 rounds --- So as a result --- All the shooter has to do is just aim the sights and and let his/her subconscious pull the trigger.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3gf_5MR4tE[/ame]
No, I'd say you're an enlightened person. I had the same lightbulb go off in my head when I recently shot some 110 grain .30-06 varmint loads from my Dad's Remington 700. Not only did I hit a small steel plate at a long distance, the boring old 110 grain JSP's punched a 1/2" diameter hole right through the plate. That got me thinking about all the tactical goons spraying lead all over and talking about the penetrative qualities of their FMJ ammo. I'm beginning to think that a simple, scoped "deer rifle" is the best SHTF weapon in existence. I guess I'm the dumb *** now.
I'm of a similar opinion. And would only modify the definition to include that scoped rifle be a short-action lever.
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500SNW
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Nothing wrong with lever guns. They're my "goto" guns...especially the ones chambering magnum pistol cartridges. But as far as punching holes in steel, I've yet to shoot a lever gun which can do that as well as a .30-06.
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So be it, until victory is America's and there is no enemy, but peace!
My rifle is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. My rifle, without me, is useless. Without my rifle, I am useless. I must fire my rifle true. I must shoot straighter than my enemy who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will...
My rifle and myself know that what counts in this war is not the rounds we fire, the noise of our burst, nor the smoke we make. We know that it is the hits that count. We will hit...
My rifle is human, even as I, because it is my life. Thus, I will learn it as a brother. I will learn its weaknesses, its strength, its parts, its accessories, its sights and its barrel. I will ever guard it against the ravages of weather and damage as I will ever guard my legs, my arms, my eyes and my heart against damage. I will keep my rifle clean and ready. We will become part of each other. We will...
Before God, I swear this creed. My rifle and myself are the defenders of my country. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the saviors of my life.
So be it, until victory is America's and there is no enemy, but peace!
Grayfox
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There was some mention of bump stock prices earlier. I remember right after the Las Vegas shooting and the ban talk got serious, I saw bump stocks listed for sale and at gun shows for $400-450. And people were buying them!
Then when it became apparent that it would be an outright ban, prices dropped like a rock. I just checked the local Armslist and there is one listed for $150 and that ad is several months old.
Then when it became apparent that it would be an outright ban, prices dropped like a rock. I just checked the local Armslist and there is one listed for $150 and that ad is several months old.
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